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Special victim status


Frank Hovis

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Lengthy piece on the radio about assaults on paramedics.

Now to be clear the people who do such things are scum. No question about that.

I was going to label this as yet another pointless campaign on the usual grounds that anyone who would take notice of it are in the 99%+ who wouldn't do it in the first place.

Upon following up the story however there is a point and that is to give special victim status for such workers:

"We would also seek more robust sentences upon conviction for any assault on a public servant, whether that be a police officer, nurse, paramedic or firefighter; these people dedicate their lives to help the community and should not be subject to abuse."

So if some drugged up nut breaks the nose of a minority = hate crime, heavy sentence. Now there's an attempt to make it a heavy sentence for attacking a paramedic etc.

Both of which, by making them special cases, degrade an assault upon Joe or Josephine Ordinary to a lesser offence.

How's that fair? Everyone hurts the same.

https://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/latest-news/2374385/shocking-number-of-emergency-workers-assaulted/

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4 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Lengthy piece on the radio about assaults on paramedics.

Now to be clear the people who do such things are scum. No question about that.

I was going to label this as yet another pointless campaign on the usual grounds that anyone who would take notice of it are in the 99%+ who wouldn't do it in the first place.

Upon following up the story however there is a point and that is to give special victim status for such workers:

"We would also seek more robust sentences upon conviction for any assault on a public servant, whether that be a police officer, nurse, paramedic or firefighter; these people dedicate their lives to help the community and should not be subject to abuse."

So if some drugged up nut breaks the nose of a minority = hate crime, heavy sentence. Now there's an attempt to make it a heavy sentence for attacking a paramedic etc.

Both of which, by making them special cases, degrade an assault upon Joe or Josephine Ordinary to a lesser offence.

How's that fair? Everyone hurts the same.

https://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/latest-news/2374385/shocking-number-of-emergency-workers-assaulted/

Agree Frank.  This modern notion of everyone (apart from hard working taxpayers of course) being special is leading to a range of problems for society, most which appear to me to be manifesting in a distinct lack of common courtesy when out and about. 

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My occasional voluntary work involves potentially higher risk scenarios, good point made above, as part of the job you are generally aware, sober (definitely) and trained to a degree to deal with the physical and legal risks associated with hands on public dealings when they are most vulnerable or sometimes threatening. Moreover there is a more concentrated support structure around you in these situations than out in the wild. 

The law should be uniform and applied equally. 

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the law should be equal to all, we know that's not the case and we already have a two tier legal system, it looks like we're heading for a multi-tier system. 

This can only be a bad thing as those least protected will become less supportive or cooperative of the legal/justice system, it won't end well.

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1 minute ago, This Time said:

I dunno, I think it takes a particularly egregious scumbag to attack a medic while they're doing their job - I'm quite happy for them to be put away for as long as possible. 

That can all be done at the sentencing stage and a factor in the sentence being doled out due to circumstances.

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1 hour ago, onlyme said:

That can all be done at the sentencing stage and a factor in the sentence being doled out due to circumstances.

Big campaign here about the number of bikes being stolen in the Town... Councillors outraged, press demanding action, Courts oblivious.

One repeat and prolific offender was sentenced two months ago for this outrage against common people...6 weeks behind bars...out in 3...back in Town stealing bikes.

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