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Jacob Rees-Mogg

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Just watched him on Good Morning Britain. I didn't realise he has generated a large following and is being touted as a potential leader of the Conservative party.

I've seen him on a few interviews and talks on YouTube and I've always been impressed with his logical reasoning and well argued opinions. He does seem to me to be a conviction politician who will maintain his moral position and not be swayed by the need to compromise.

What are your opinions of him?

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I like him, and still do, but my like was dented when I heard him answer a question about family size on 'Any Questions' on R4 (last Friday) and he talked about population growth and Malthus to justify having 6 kids. It was clear politician wriggling, and I always had him down as a 'straight talker'.

Edited by Hopeful

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3 minutes ago, Hopeful said:

I like him, and still do, but my like was dented when I heard him answer a question about family size on 'Any Questions' on R4 (last Friday) and he talked about population growth and Malthus to justify having 6 kids. It was clear politician wriggling, and I always had him down as a 'straight talker'.

He could have just said he's against abortion,
That never makes people angry.

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Just now, sarahbell said:

He could have just said he's against abortion,
That never makes people angry.

 

In which case, clearly, he keeps fucking up, perhaps not a good trait for a politician, although among good company

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He's a strong opponent to abortion.  He believes life starts at conception......which it  logically does.

I don't want to get into the rights or wrongs with respect to abortion, but do think  males should have some rights within the issue. As it stands in our gynocentric society....sperm is considered a gift and the male has no voice in the pre-birth outcome of the child.

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45 minutes ago, Wahoo said:

He's a strong opponent to abortion.  He believes life starts at conception......which it  logically does.

I don't want to get into the rights or wrongs with respect to abortion, but do think  males should have some rights within the issue. As it stands in our gynocentric society....sperm is considered a gift and the male has no voice in the pre-birth outcome of the child.

What's the alternative? Forcing women to have medical procedures against their will? Forcing women to carry babies they don't want with the potential for life long damage to their bodies or even death?

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I completely agree with his view on abortion but it's my personal opinion and the only time I've ever really discussed it was when I was at School and we had a For and Against in RE class (if I remember correctly). Nowadays, For and Against isn't allowed. You either have the 'correct' opinions or you're a 'bigot'. 

Pathetic. The left can go fuck itself.

Oh, and if the Moggster does become PM, I will be voting Tory for the first time ever.

Edited by TheNoSnowMan

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2 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Do you think that he goes to Opus Dei meetings with Ruth Kelly, ties a bits of barbed wire about their thighs and then they whip one another?

No there's a disappointing porno...

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28 minutes ago, This Time said:

What's the alternative? Forcing women to have medical procedures against their will? Forcing women to carry babies they don't want with the potential for life long damage to their bodies or even death?

I have to say I don't think there's a perfectly ethical ruleset for the abortion issue. Some pretty fundamental rights are potentially clashing for the Mother, Father, and foetus/baby. I personally think the current accommodation in the UK is more or less right, but it's a very subjective value judgement.

The way you phrase it, you make it sound like any alternative is unthinkable, but it appears to be the norm for a hefty chunk of the world's population.

LIST OF COUNTRIES WHERE ABORTION IS ILLEGAL

  • Afghanistan
  • Argentina
  • Angola
  • Bangladesh
  • Benin
  • Brazil
  • Central African Rep
  • Chad
  • Chili
  • Congo
  • Colombia
  • Cote d’Ivory
  • Dominican Republic
  • Egypt
  • El Salvador
  • Gabon
  • Guatemala
  • Guinea-Bissau
  • Haiti
  • Honduras
  • Indonesia
  • Iran
  • Ireland
  • Kenya
  • Laos
  • Lebanon
  • Lesotho
  • Libya
  • Mexico
  • Madagascar
  • Mali
  • Mauritius
  • Mauritania
  • Myanmar
  • Nicaragua
  • Niger
  • Oman
  • Pakistan
  • Panama
  • Papua New Guinea
  • Paraguay
  • Senegal
  • Somalia
  • Sudan
  • Syria
  • Tanzania
  • UAE
  • Uganda
  • Vatican City
  • Venezuela
  • Yemen

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1 minute ago, Hail the Tripod said:

I have to say I don't think there's a perfectly ethical ruleset for the abortion issue. Some pretty fundamental rights are potentially clashing for the Mother, Father, and foetus/baby. I personally think the current accommodation in the UK is more or less right, but it's a very subjective value judgement.

The way you phrase it, you make it sound like any alternative is unthinkable, but it appears to be the norm for a hefty chunk of the world's population.

LIST OF COUNTRIES WHERE ABORTION IS ILLEGAL

  • Afghanistan
  • Argentina
  • Angola
  • Bangladesh
  • Benin
  • Brazil
  • Central African Rep
  • Chad
  • Chili
  • Congo
  • Colombia
  • Cote d’Ivory
  • Dominican Republic
  • Egypt
  • El Salvador
  • Gabon
  • Guatemala
  • Guinea-Bissau
  • Haiti
  • Honduras
  • Indonesia
  • Iran
  • Ireland
  • Kenya
  • Laos
  • Lebanon
  • Lesotho
  • Libya
  • Mexico
  • Madagascar
  • Mali
  • Mauritius
  • Mauritania
  • Myanmar
  • Nicaragua
  • Niger
  • Oman
  • Pakistan
  • Panama
  • Papua New Guinea
  • Paraguay
  • Senegal
  • Somalia
  • Sudan
  • Syria
  • Tanzania
  • UAE
  • Uganda
  • Vatican City
  • Venezuela
  • Yemen

Not sure I'd want any of those countries to serve as model for a future world though. (Sorry Ireland)

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I don't know why this is but there are LOADS of videos of JRM and that awful woman Jess Phillips, here's one here :

He always comes across well, the only thing I have an issue with is his wading into the Clarks shoes idiocy a few weeks ago.

If he was my local MP I would have voted for him years ago. I have only voted tory once, that was the most recent election where I was just supporting Brexit. If he gets to be PM I will most probably vote Tory again next time.

Edited by Carl Fimble
changing Well to well

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1 minute ago, Hail the Tripod said:

Couldn't agree more. Just pointing out that everyone thinks their position on abortion is reasonable and ethically sound, but in fact it's a rotten subject and there is no "ethically sound" solution.

Wahoo was suggesting that the father should have a say though and, given that abortion is legal in this country, I don't think it's reasonable that a man could force a woman to carry a child she doesn't want. I also don't think any of those countries are being reasonable. 

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1 minute ago, spunko2010 said:

:ph34r: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that, no disrespect to you, (and most Dosboders have kids so I doubt this will be popular) but it does slightly irritate me when it is suggested that all those without children have less skin in the game than those who do. I don't have children, don't really want any, but I'm pretty nationalistic and love this country. I also have nieces and nephews, and think of them and what kind of environment they're going to grow up in, and it worries me.

 

Yes, I can imagine that being irritating if you are not a nihilist. Many people are nihilistic these days though. People care about others, and especially their family and friends, not like you care for a child though.

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2 minutes ago, Carl Fimble said:

Yes, I can imagine that being irritating if you are not a nihilist. Many people are nihilistic these days though. People care about others, and especially their family and friends, not like you care for a child though.

I think a lot of people confuse nihilism with hating human kind, this isn't the same! :o

46 minutes ago, TheNoSnowMan said:

I completely agree with his view on abortion but it's my personal opinion and the only time I've ever really discussed it was when I was at School and we had a For and Against in RE class (if I remember correctly). Nowadays, For and Against isn't allowed. You either have the 'correct' opinions or you're a 'bigot'. 

Pathetic. The left can go fuck itself.

Oh, and if the Moggster does become PM, I will be voting Tory for the first time ever.

It's presented as such a polarising thing nowadays, I have never mentioned my views on abortion (which roughly align with his) to anyone outside my family. That makes him a very brave man, in my book.

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5 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

:ph34r: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that, no disrespect to you, (and most Dosboders have kids so I doubt this will be popular) but it does slightly irritate me when it is suggested that all those without children have less skin in the game than those who do. I don't have children, don't really want any, but I'm pretty nationalistic and love this country. I also have nieces and nephews, and think of them and what kind of environment they're going to grow up in, and it worries me.

 

I agree. I don't have children and probably care more about the future of this planet more than most parents. People who've really thought about the direction the world is going in and who are worried about it are probably more likely to not have children than those who haven't given it a second thought.

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2 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

I think a lot of people confuse nihilism with hating human kind, this isn't the same! :o

xD Walter Sobchak said it best: "Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."

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