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Lock everyone up in their homes who doesn't agree with me or want to do what I say, says Tony......

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/time-distinguish-between-vaccinated-unvaccinated-230100887.html

‘Time to distinguish’ between vaccinated and unvaccinated, says Tony Blair6 June 2021, 1:01 am

 
 

Former prime minister Tony Blair has said it is “time to distinguish for the purposes of freedom” between people who are vaccinated and unvaccinated when it comes to travel and domestically.

Mr Blair also described the NHS app that proves vaccination as “inadequate” as he said it makes “no sense at all to treat those who have had vaccination as the same as those who haven’t”.

The former Labour leader was reacting to a report published by the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change which says “vaccine status matters” and champions the idea of health passes “to allow citizens to prove their status in a secure, privacy-preserving way”.

Proposing the health pass system be used both at home and abroad, the report said: “With this ability to securely prove vaccination status, we can move beyond blunt, catch-all tools and align with other countries by removing certain restrictions for the fully vaccinated, thereby enabling us to sustainably reopen the economy.”

Former prime minister Tony Blair receiving the Covid-19 vaccine at the Lords cricket ground facility in London Toni Blair Institute/Twitter/PA)
 
Former prime minister Tony Blair receiving the Covid-19 vaccine at the Lords cricket ground facility in London (Tony Blair Institute/Twitter/PA)
 

It went on: “For as long as the world goes largely unvaccinated and the risk of a new variant remains significant, it’s vital that we have an alternative to the blunt tool of lockdowns to enable the country to live freely and safely.”

Mr Blair said: “It is time to distinguish for the purposes of freedom from restriction between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, both for citizens here for domestic purposes; but also for our citizens and those from other countries in respect of travel on the basis that being vaccinated substantially reduces risk.

“It therefore makes no sense at all to treat those who have had vaccination as the same as those who haven’t.”

He pointed to the report which says “why the current NHS app for proving vaccination is inadequate and should be changed to be simpler and more effective” and later went on: “Of course we are discriminating between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

“But the whole of risk management is based on discriminating between different types and levels of risk.

“Nothing matters more to risk than vaccination, which is precisely why we’re doing it,” Mr Blair said.

“Yes by allowing greater freedom and fewer restrictions to the vaccinated we’re providing a powerful incentive to take up vaccination, but this is a perfectly valid public policy objective.

“Other than for medical reasons, people should be vaccinated.”

A senior Government source said: “Once again Mr Blair appears to have learned of things already in the pipeline with the NHS app and decided to publicly call for them.

“Nonetheless we thank him for his continued support.”

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What's he invested in?

I'm sure I have no more interest in his opinions, than I have in Greta, or some unknown rapper.

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Vaccine status is not binary, would be more useful to develop a simple test that can determine your vulnerability to getting and spreading the virus based on antibodies, immune system strength and other health related things. But oh no, let's go for the thing that boosts profits for the pharma companies

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2 minutes ago, ashestoashes said:

Vaccine status is not binary, would be more useful to develop a simple test that can determine your vulnerability to getting and spreading the virus based on antibodies, immune system strength and other health related things. But oh no, let's go for the thing that boosts profits for the pharma companies

That's what the rampant jabbers miss.

When I have a flu jab it is firstly a single standard of jab rather than several different types and it protects me against the four variants expected that season which have been selected based upon what is currently swilling around the southern hemisphere in their earlier flu season.

With Covid we have new variants arising every couple of months, several competing jab products, and people have one jab, two jabs or even two different jabs.

The period of protection against "Covid" - as in all current variants - is very limited indeed and the efficacy of the different variants and one jab or more and its timing is going to vary hugely.

Maybe Tony Blair is simply as thick as two short planks and thinks that the jab is a secret magic brewed in Hogwarts.

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Blair is one of the zealots that thinks, just because he says something it can/should/will be done.  

I've no idea why they've let him off his leash for this, has to do more harm than good for the pro authoritarians 

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swiss_democracy_for_all
2 minutes ago, Loki said:

His death won't stop a thing.

 

True, unfortunately. He's done his evil work, and did it very well.

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23 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

Lock everyone up in their homes who doesn't agree with me or want to do what I say, says Tony......

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/time-distinguish-between-vaccinated-unvaccinated-230100887.html

‘Time to distinguish’ between vaccinated and unvaccinated, says Tony Blair6 June 2021, 1:01 am

 
 

Former prime minister Tony Blair has said it is “time to distinguish for the purposes of freedom” between people who are vaccinated and unvaccinated when it comes to travel and domestically.

Mr Blair also described the NHS app that proves vaccination as “inadequate” as he said it makes “no sense at all to treat those who have had vaccination as the same as those who haven’t”.

The former Labour leader was reacting to a report published by the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change which says “vaccine status matters” and champions the idea of health passes “to allow citizens to prove their status in a secure, privacy-preserving way”.

Proposing the health pass system be used both at home and abroad, the report said: “With this ability to securely prove vaccination status, we can move beyond blunt, catch-all tools and align with other countries by removing certain restrictions for the fully vaccinated, thereby enabling us to sustainably reopen the economy.”

Former prime minister Tony Blair receiving the Covid-19 vaccine at the Lords cricket ground facility in London Toni Blair Institute/Twitter/PA)
 
Former prime minister Tony Blair receiving the Covid-19 vaccine at the Lords cricket ground facility in London (Tony Blair Institute/Twitter/PA)
 

It went on: “For as long as the world goes largely unvaccinated and the risk of a new variant remains significant, it’s vital that we have an alternative to the blunt tool of lockdowns to enable the country to live freely and safely.”

Mr Blair said: “It is time to distinguish for the purposes of freedom from restriction between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, both for citizens here for domestic purposes; but also for our citizens and those from other countries in respect of travel on the basis that being vaccinated substantially reduces risk.

“It therefore makes no sense at all to treat those who have had vaccination as the same as those who haven’t.”

He pointed to the report which says “why the current NHS app for proving vaccination is inadequate and should be changed to be simpler and more effective” and later went on: “Of course we are discriminating between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

“But the whole of risk management is based on discriminating between different types and levels of risk.

“Nothing matters more to risk than vaccination, which is precisely why we’re doing it,” Mr Blair said.

“Yes by allowing greater freedom and fewer restrictions to the vaccinated we’re providing a powerful incentive to take up vaccination, but this is a perfectly valid public policy objective.

“Other than for medical reasons, people should be vaccinated.”

A senior Government source said: “Once again Mr Blair appears to have learned of things already in the pipeline with the NHS app and decided to publicly call for them.

“Nonetheless we thank him for his continued support.”

This bloke is so lacking in self awareness and full of himself that he doesn't get how universally despised he is and hence shouldn't make any statement for a cause that he supports as that is a sure fire way for people to be attracted to the opposite of what he says. 

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Wight Flight
7 minutes ago, Loki said:

His death won't stop a thing.

 

For us, no.

It might shut him up though, and we should be grateful for that.

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1 minute ago, Wight Flight said:

For us, no.

It might shut him up though, and we should be grateful for that.

Fair point

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"It is time to distinguish between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated..."

The time for that speech was twenty years ago, when it actually mattered. But Blair had neither the integrity nor the courage to make a stand then. And nothing he has accomplished in the intervening time  has earned him the right to be heard on the subject of vaccination since.

A politician who could not be honest with us about his son's vaccination status is in no position to lecture us on risk, or dictate to us how we should live.

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Bus Stop Boxer
28 minutes ago, Loki said:

His death won't stop a thing.

 

It'll still be a good thing though.

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Bkkandrew

On this I agree with the scumbag for once.

I don't want anything to do with the genetically modified lot also.

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56 minutes ago, Loki said:

His death won't stop a thing.

 

It will hopefully stop him breathing.

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Battenberg
1 hour ago, Great Guy said:

I have to admit I'll be having a drink when he kicks the bucket. 

I’ve made no secret of my magnum of champagne that’s on hold for that great day.

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Battenberg
1 hour ago, Loki said:

His death won't stop a thing.

 

It’ll stop me getting high blood pressure when I see articles like this. That’s assuming Matt Handjob is also kept off our screens.

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Iamcynical
20 minutes ago, dgul said:

The vaccines are sufficiently poor at stopping the spread of infection that basing the 'eligibility for unconstrained mobility' on vaccination status is a staggeringly stupid idea.

It makes more sense to base 'freedom' on a negative covid test result, but even that's pointless -- there's just too many that would pass but nevertheless be a carrier, and too many that would fail even though they're free from covid.

And why worry anyway -- the vast majority don't get ill and the virus is everywhere anyway.

Vaccine passports attempt to solve a problem that doesn't exist, using a method that doesn't work.

We all know this isn't about a virus, nor safety...

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Dogtania
1 hour ago, Great Guy said:

I have to admit I'll be having a drink when he kicks the bucket. 

I can't imagine there being a public thing made out of people celebrating his demise like there was with Thatcher.

Thing is Thatcher seemed to be genuine and whilst decisive wasn't such a bought over, duplicitous, sinister utter cunt as Blair seemed to have become.  

But seems like more people in the public when you speak to them only have disdain for Blair.  

Still the walking dead darling that they wheel out for some reason though, does seem strange.  Genuinely like there is a spell (hypnotized) on the public as one would think bringing his bag of rotton bones out to get behind a cause is the last thing you want, yet it is still used time and again.

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