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sarahbell

EU peeps discriminated against

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Id need to see evidence.

Until then Id call BS.

Why would a travel agency not allow non UK nationals bookings?

Ditto rentals.

As far as 'needs UK passport' Id say thats just useless HR people not stating the requirements to reflect the need is visa free access to the UK + EU i.e. expectig only UK citizens to apply.

 

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https://www.gov.uk/check-tenant-right-to-rent-documents

Any renting issues might be relating to the LAW.

Check all new tenants. It’s against the law to only check people you think aren’t British citizens.

  1. Check which adults will use your property as their main home (your ‘tenants’).

  2. Ask them for original documents that prove they can live in the UK.

  3. Check their documents to see if they have the right to rent your property.

  4. Check that each tenant’s documents are genuine and belong to them, with the tenant present.

  5. Make and keep copies of the documents and record the date you made the check.

You can get an unlimited fine or be sent to prison for renting your property to someone who isn’t allowed to stay in England.

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2 hours ago, spygirl said:

Id need to see evidence.

Until then Id call BS.

Why would a travel agency not allow non UK nationals bookings?

Ditto rentals.

As far as 'needs UK passport' Id say thats just useless HR people not stating the requirements to reflect the need is visa free access to the UK + EU i.e. expectig only UK citizens to apply.

 

Maybe it's a bit like Eurotunnel where if you are French you can book on their French site and get cheaper fares. If you are a UK national you have to book via the UK website and pay more. Is that the kind of discrimination they are talking about?

Frankly the whole article is the biggest non-story load of bollocks ever to (dis)grace the disgusting arse-wipe of a newspaper that is the Grauniad.

Edited by the gardener

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Complete bollocks from the Guardian, recruitment agencies by law have to prove/be satisfied that anyone on their books has the right to work in the UK.

Likewise anyone renting a house to someone has to prove/be satisfied that they have the right to reside in the UK.

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9 hours ago, Chewing Grass said:

Complete bollocks from the Guardian, recruitment agencies by law have to prove/be satisfied that anyone on their books has the right to work in the UK.

Likewise anyone renting a house to someone has to prove/be satisfied that they have the right to reside in the UK.

Yes they do. It is a new rule.They have to ask

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Isn't there an ant-terrorism aspect to all this - checking people's documents in certain circumstances.

The survey sounds like wanting to make a mountain out of a very small molehill to again create more headlines to introduce some more SJW leaning policies.

You would think all the affirmative action type policies would more than outweigh any small instances of discrimination.  Outweigh by a massive amount.

 

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1 minute ago, twocents said:

Isn't there ab ant-terrorism aspect to all this - checking people's documents in certain circumstances.

It sounds like wanting to make a mountain out of a very small molehill to again create more headlines to introduce some more SJW leaning policies.

You would think all the affirmative action type policies would more than outweigh any small instances of discrimination.  Outweigh by a massive amount.

 

No, you have to check ID, whether offering a job, or a rental.O.o

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21 hours ago, sarahbell said:

https://www.gov.uk/check-tenant-right-to-rent-documents

Any renting issues might be relating to the LAW.

Check all new tenants. It’s against the law to only check people you think aren’t British citizens.

  1. Check which adults will use your property as their main home (your ‘tenants’).

  2. Ask them for original documents that prove they can live in the UK.

  3. Check their documents to see if they have the right to rent your property.

  4. Check that each tenant’s documents are genuine and belong to them, with the tenant present.

  5. Make and keep copies of the documents and record the date you made the check.

You can get an unlimited fine or be sent to prison for renting your property to someone who isn’t allowed to stay in England.

Haha - Fuck it. Just get 2months cash upfront & load em into yer garage/shed. 

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22 minutes ago, MrPin said:

No, you have to check ID, whether offering a job, or a rental.O.o

Are you sure that ID check doesn't originate at least in part from some new anti-terrorism laws - in some cases.

If not maybe it should do even if only for unidentified illegal people arriving from overseas (for example in rubber dinghies across the Channel etc) and seeking housing. 

 

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http://www.propertyindustryeye.com/amid-terrorist-fears-immigration-checks-tenants-get-go-ahead/

At a time of heightened national security amid international tensions, the requirement to check the immigration status of all prospective tenants is to go ahead.

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22 hours ago, sarahbell said:

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Travel agencies declining to take bookings from non-British or non-Irish citizens and cancelling the holidays already booked by EU nationals from other countries.

 

I can only imagine this might be because of a risk that the agencies won't get paid.  Repeat offenders maybe. Otherwise why would a bona fide tourist be rejected unless they had for example previously misbehaved.

As usual there are no reasons given.  Of course everyone would like to travel for free and maybe some more so than others.  Give readers more detail.

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20 hours ago, the gardener said:

Maybe it's a bit like Eurotunnel where if you are French you can book on their French site and get cheaper fares. If you are a UK national you have to book via the UK website and pay more. Is that the kind of discrimination they are talking about?

Frankly the whole article is the biggest non-story load of bollocks ever to (dis)grace the disgusting arse-wipe of a newspaper that is the Grauniad.

Yes it is - and they didn't even have a form to ask if UK nationals might feel discriminated against either in their own country or in other countries in the eu.

They are always trying to make out that it's always the UK people who are always the baddies.  At some point it must be against the law to be so biased against one group.

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19 hours ago, dgul said:

A 'dossier of more than two dozen examples' suggests to me that we currently have amazingly low levels of anti-EU discrimination.

 

and outweighed massively by policies like affirmative action etc - which must have outlived it's usefulness by now that is even if it had any usefulness in the first place..

Most if not all of the examples given in the article seem to be examples of incompetence in knowing and applying the law but you won't ever get rid of that type of mistake - it should be rightly put down as incompetence/bureaucratic incompetence and not discrimination.  

Maybe they should do a survey about the level of incompetence now in the UK and the reasons for that.

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