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Israel - one to watch?


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The Masked Tulip
1 hour ago, apples said:

Off topic, but I had to look up Eswatini, "still commonly known in English as Swaziland"

Corona-chan hasn't kissed or killed many Swazis, but the graphs of cases and deaths have odd plateaus:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/swaziland/

 

Late March they began jabbing.

https://www.afro.who.int/news/giving-110-eswatinis-early-rollout-covid-19-vaccines

 

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Democorruptcy
On 16/08/2021 at 05:47, Syd Germs said:

 

Nicked from TOS.

 

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If the scale on both charts were 1,000's the death chart wouldn't show a blip. It's only about 1 death in a million.

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Syd Germs

Strange thing about Israel is that there's a spike in deaths as well.

Hasn't really happened in other places this summer.

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Syd Germs

Dr Mong Campbell touches on Israel in his latest video.

Cites a study based on the Alpha variant.

On whether it's safe to extrapolate from Alpha to Delta he says "yes, absolutely" and "I would expect it to be very similar"

This is the study

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072

"Data were collected for 14 weeks, until April 28. "

This bloke is so far behind the curve it's embarrassing.

Either that or he's a paid fucking shill.

Alpha's gone you massive idiot.

 

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Austin Allegro
8 hours ago, Syd Germs said:

Dr Mong Campbell touches on Israel in his latest video.

Cites a study based on the Alpha variant.

On whether it's safe to extrapolate from Alpha to Delta he says "yes, absolutely" and "I would expect it to be very similar"

This is the study

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072

"Data were collected for 14 weeks, until April 28. "

This bloke is so far behind the curve it's embarrassing.

Either that or he's a paid fucking shill.

Alpha's gone you massive idiot.

 

Can't believe this bloke and his followers are still going. Is he still doing a video every day? There were signs he might be groping towards realising it's all a bit of a scam a few months ago, but then he seemed to get back in line with the narrative.

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Syd Germs
2 hours ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

 

Some "Prof" cunt on there saying the problem was caused by not "going after" the unvaccinated !!!

WTF

Israel up to 4th in the world now.

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Democorruptcy
1 hour ago, janch said:

From the BBC no less.......wow!

"The mistake we made was not going after those we weren't vaccinated"

Yes, it was the BBC.

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A tremendous # on the lung

Here we go again...

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/covid-israel-registers-600-serious-patients-3rd-vaccine-to-be-expanded-677144

Ten cases of a new strain of the Delta variant have been identified in Israel, KAN reported on Thursdays just days after a senior health official warned that if such a variant was to reach the country it could send it straight to the lockdown the authorities were trying to avoid.

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1 hour ago, A tremendous # on the lung said:

Here we go again...

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/covid-israel-registers-600-serious-patients-3rd-vaccine-to-be-expanded-677144

Ten cases of a new strain of the Delta variant have been identified in Israel, KAN reported on Thursdays just days after a senior health official warned that if such a variant was to reach the country it could send it straight to the lockdown the authorities were trying to avoid.

Ah yes, the virus which is making decisions on lockdown.

Just what is 'the virus' really shorthand for?

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Van Lady
16 minutes ago, Yadda yadda yadda said:

Very Inept Rulers and Unreliable Science (VIRUS).

Brilliant! :Beer:

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sarahbell
3 hours ago, A tremendous # on the lung said:

Here we go again...

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/covid-israel-registers-600-serious-patients-3rd-vaccine-to-be-expanded-677144

Ten cases of a new strain of the Delta variant have been identified in Israel, KAN reported on Thursdays just days after a senior health official warned that if such a variant was to reach the country it could send it straight to the lockdown the authorities were trying to avoid.

Delta plus?

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15 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Delta plus?

Delta plus is Delta.AY.1, although it has been used to describe Delta.AY.2.  Delta.AY.3 is different again, and isn't plus.

[The naming scheme is stupid.  It hasn't helped at all.  They could have come up with a proper naming scheme, but were more interested in getting rid of the 'country of origin' approach, so did a rush job.]

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Bus Stop Boxer
1 hour ago, dgul said:

The 'new variant' is Delta.AY3.

The indications are that AY3 is less transmissible than normal Delta, but that infections, when they occur, have a higher viral load in the vaccinated (than Delta), ie, it has achieved some aspect of vaccine escape.

Thus it appears that AY3 is a 'valley of death' variant -- that is, it looks to be less transmissible than Delta and thus will remain a minor variant, even if it does have higher viral loads once infection occurs in the vaccinated.

BUT, it is possible that AY3 will manage to increase its infectiousness, either through a further mutation, or through recombination with another variant, and thus take over as the predominant strain, with added vaccine escape.

If they'd not vaccinated so many then this would be unlikely, as there just wouldn't be enough people for whom it had a selective advantage (the vaccinated) -- in that case it would just die out.  But they have vaccinated so very many, and this makes further evolution of AY3 to full vaccine escape rather likely (the main 'competition' is that Lambda variant achieves increased infectiousness first).

Why don't they just call it OMG666, and have fucking done with it?

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Bricks & Mortar

I haven't read the article this pertains to.  Not prepared to give NYT my details, even for a 'free' account.   Some of you might though.  From the Twitter comments, it may be another msm significant milestone.
 

 

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Syd Germs
25 minutes ago, Bricks & Mortar said:

I haven't read the article this pertains to.  Not prepared to give NYT my details, even for a 'free' account.   Some of you might though.  From the Twitter comments, it may be another msm significant milestone.
 

 

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ashestoashes
5 hours ago, Bricks & Mortar said:

I haven't read the article this pertains to.  Not prepared to give NYT my details, even for a 'free' account.   Some of you might though.  From the Twitter comments, it may be another msm significant milestone.
 

 

pressing escape seems to work, last line says vaccines alone are not enough

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stop_the_craziness

There seems to be various versions of that NYT article's information appearing around the world (did anyone say lockstep????)

The UK one seems to conclude that we must not make the "mistake" that Israel made, which was that they didn't hunt down and force-jab those who declined their "offer" of a vaccine.

Don't make our costly mistake, Britain: Israeli scientist gives a warning on front line of new surge | Daily Mail Online

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