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A third jab is needed because the first 2 haven't worked?


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Democorruptcy

They prefer to call it a "booster" but isn't that just using a fancy term to use, instead of admitting what they have done so far doesn't work and they need to try again?

Once this 3rd jab is rolled out, what's going to happen about restrictions that were lifted for people who were "fully vaccinated"? For example at the end of September people have been told they can go to nightclubs if they are fully vaccinated. By the end of September, won't they only be partially "vaccinated"? Now we have no quarantine from some countries if people are "fully vaccinated" but soon they won't be "fully vaccinated" until they are triple jabbed when there are 3 jabs?

How are young people, down the priority list for jabs, ever going to be able to get ahead of the number of jabs needed to lift restrictions for them? What's the point of trying, if the goalposts could be shifting?

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Yadda yadda yadda

If the virus consistently evades vaccines then the best option would be to be able to prove prior infection and immunity. That would require a test other than for antibodies. Alternatively they might eventually create a sterilising vaccine.

Those currently vaccinated will have a rolling timetable for further vaccination based on age and last shot. Phones will flash with messages a month, a week, a day and an hour before their rights are downgraded.

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31 minutes ago, Yadda yadda yadda said:

If the virus consistently evades vaccines then the best option would be to be able to prove prior infection and immunity. That would require a test other than for antibodies. Alternatively they might eventually create a sterilising vaccine.

Those currently vaccinated will have a rolling timetable for further vaccination based on age and last shot. Phones will flash with messages a month, a week, a day and an hour before their rights are downgraded.

Re your proving prior infection and immunity, what if there's a difference in immunity between those who have had covid, with or without a jab? Natural immunity might be prove better than natural immunity subsequently combined with a jab.

Article here suggesting recovered people have good immunity and shouldn't have a jab after:

https://www.aier.org/article/if-you-had-covid-do-you-need-the-vaccine/

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/08/02/world/pfizer-and-moderna-raised-their-vaccine-prices-in-their-latest-eu-contracts.amp.html

The great reset is underway, natural immunity is best evolved over millions of years and not in some lab with clever folk playing god. People first infected are still testing positive for antigens some 18 months later yet we/they are being gently persuaded to take the jab and subsequent boosters that will be deleterious to said immunity. This is death by a thousand cuts and over 2 or 3 generations we'll be hooked (first hit was free sound familiar?) that's when the fun starts as people will gradually get sicker and less fertile. For those that can afford the antidote it'll be along the lines of a once monthly pill. May I introduce to the dosbod brood ViiV (HIV) £1,000p/month! we'll be like the aborigines susceptible to a common cold except with more fatal consequences. 

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The Grey Man
2 hours ago, longtomsilver said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/08/02/world/pfizer-and-moderna-raised-their-vaccine-prices-in-their-latest-eu-contracts.amp.html

The great reset is underway, natural immunity is best evolved over millions of years and not in some lab with clever folk playing god. People first infected are still testing positive for antigens some 18 months later yet we/they are being gently persuaded to take the jab and subsequent boosters that will be deleterious to said immunity. This is death by a thousand cuts and over 2 or 3 generations we'll be hooked (first hit was free sound familiar?) that's when the fun starts as people will gradually get sicker and less fertile. For those that can afford the antidote it'll be along the lines of a once monthly pill. May I introduce to the dosbod brood ViiV (HIV) £1,000p/month! we'll be like the aborigines susceptible to a common cold except with more fatal consequences. 

Now there is a story in that.

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7 hours ago, Yadda yadda yadda said:

If the virus consistently evades vaccines then the best option would be to be able to prove prior infection and immunity. That would require a test other than for antibodies. Alternatively they might eventually create a sterilising vaccine.

Those currently vaccinated will have a rolling timetable for further vaccination based on age and last shot. Phones will flash with messages a month, a week, a day and an hour before their rights are downgraded.

T Cells or bust.

£179.

Would be worth it, if anyone was listening.

But they're not.

So that tells anyone with half a brain cell, all they need to know.

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Bus Stop Boxer
6 hours ago, Democorruptcy said:

Re your proving prior infection and immunity, what if there's a difference in immunity between those who have had covid, with or without a jab? Natural immunity might be prove better than natural immunity subsequently combined with a jab.

Article here suggesting recovered people have good immunity and shouldn't have a jab after:

https://www.aier.org/article/if-you-had-covid-do-you-need-the-vaccine/

They're not interested.

Articles. Debates. Theorems. Postulations. Posits. Peer reviews. Their own fucking data.

Nah.

Its over.

Jab it.

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Democorruptcy

Here we go Michael Green pointing out the difference between only a double jab and a full jab. People who think a double jab is a passport to freedom are going to be disappointed.

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Grant Shapps told Radio 4's Today programme: "I think double vaccination or full vaccination is going to be a feature forevermore. And most countries, probably all countries, will require full vaccination in order for you to enter."

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-vaccination-needed-travel-for-21230736

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Democorruptcy said:

Grant Shapps told Radio 4's Today programme: "I think double vaccination or full vaccination is going to be a feature forevermore. And most countries, probably all countries, will require full vaccination in order for you to enter."

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-vaccination-needed-travel-for-21230736

 

Full vaccination with a ‘vaccine’ that will always be at a minimum of 6 months behind the latest variant? That even the most voracious vaccination cheerleaders have stopped trying to pretend stops infection or transmission?

This wouldn’t be more ‘coaxing and cajoling’, would it?

Ive read a lot lately about Shapps being not too bright. Seems that’s the case. He obviously thinks we’re as thick as he is.

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2 hours ago, apples said:

Put me in mind of this:

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Haven't seen it yet, but you know it's coming.

Well that's excellent news for the unjabbed. We will be a growing minority rather than an ever shrinking one and there's even the prospect of becoming majority.

Watch for the switch when the survey is done that almost all the undervaxterminated are hugely more likely to vote than the vaxloyal.

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I think you are all underestimating the capabilities of the tech being put in place.  This isn't the 1940s where you have to present your papers!!  Its not a binary thing!  Your phone app will know if you've been called for whatever round of jab, and if you've  turned up for it.  What "round" it is doesn't matter.  What does matter is that you are "up to date"....  ie  a compliant slave.

Wouldn't surprise me if its all saline from here on in. If there is anything nasty in the vax,  the laggers will soon outnumber the compliant.

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25 minutes ago, Whowhywhen? said:

I think you are all underestimating the capabilities of the tech being put in place.  This isn't the 1940s where you have to present your papers!!  Its not a binary thing!  Your phone app will know if you've been called for whatever round of jab, and if you've  turned up for it.  What "round" it is doesn't matter.  What does matter is that you are "up to date"....  ie  a compliant slave.

Wouldn't surprise me if its all saline from here on in. If there is anything nasty in the vax,  the laggers will soon outnumber the compliant.

jabs are finished, it'll be via tablet, nasal spray and then virus

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4 hours ago, dgul said:

It would focus minds somewhat if everyone was told on vaccination:

This is your 4-month social pass.  You'll need to keep coming back for it to be updated to go to <anywhere>

But if they did this the support for vaccines and vaccine passports would decline substantially overnight.  So they need to tell people that the jabs will be limited to two (three) and keep on telling people that the end is just around the corner, with one last push required.

How many weeks to flatten the curve? Which year are we going into now. We've been played.

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Whowhywhen?
1 hour ago, ashestoashes said:

jabs are finished, it'll be via tablet, nasal spray and then virus

Doesn't the viral vector stop working if you have immunity?  Surely there are only a finite number of ones they can use before they look to similar to a previously used one.

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Syd Germs
29 minutes ago, longtomsilver said:

How many weeks to flatten the curve? Which year are we going into now. We've been played.

It was like when income tax was introduced as a temporary measure to help fight the French.

"Three weeks to flatten the cunts." they said.

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4 hours ago, Whowhywhen? said:

Doesn't the viral vector stop working if you have immunity?  Surely there are only a finite number of ones they can use before they look to similar to a previously used one.

Yes.  I'm pretty sure this is why AZ have gone quiet on the booster front.

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4 hours ago, Syd Germs said:

It was like when income tax was introduced as a temporary measure to help fight the French.

"Three weeks to flatten the cunts." they said.

British governments have a special definition of 'temporary'.

Limiting opening times for pubs was a temporary measure during WW1.

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4 hours ago, Syd Germs said:

It was like when income tax was introduced as a temporary measure to help fight the French.

"Three weeks to flatten the cunts." they said.

Like when Nixon closed the Gold window.

A 'temporary' measure.

 

 

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Democorruptcy
On 06/08/2021 at 10:36, dgul said:

It would focus minds somewhat if everyone was told on vaccination:

This is your 4-month social pass.  You'll need to keep coming back for it to be updated to go to <anywhere>

But if they did this the support for vaccines and vaccine passports would decline substantially overnight.  So they need to tell people that the jabs will be limited to two (three) and keep on telling people that the end is just around the corner, with one last push required.

It reminds me of this one. Change it to 'full vaccination' instead of 'prosperity'? People having a 2nd jab now thinking it means 'freedom' could be very disappointed, now 3rd jabs are coming.

 

 

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Read the other day the special booster, the one designed to beat the Delta variant that is getting around vaccines is nothing more than the same vaccine, if so really don't know how they are going to get away with this.

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