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Has this nonsense changed your view on modern medicine even more ?


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10 minutes ago, 23rdian said:

I don't think it has done it any favours at all.

Yes. I wonder what the long term effects might be. Although the majority still seem firmly sucked into the big pharma machine.

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Yup this has destroyed my trust in most things that are related to the state and big government.

As for medicine at the end of this most Dr's and nurses will be lucky to avoid haning

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The Masked Tulip

Yes.

I naively thought that the flu jab was basically made the way that Jenner would have made it. Apparently it is far from that.

I have been very aware of the good and bad of both the NHS and modern medicines for a long time. But I have been shocked at just how cold blooded the pharma industry. I can only assume that it is run by sociopaths.

I have also had an eye opener at how ignorant certain doctors appear to be re some fundamentals of their job. Ditto nurses. 

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39 minutes ago, One percent said:

As the saying goes, if you want to stay healthy, keep away from the medical profession 

Stay away from the quacks!

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Democorruptcy

It's vindicated my view. I've never had a jab for anything and the family body count is only so high because of NHS incompetence.

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1 hour ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Yes.

I naively thought that the flu jab was basically made the way that Jenner would have made it. Apparently it is far from that.

I have been very aware of the good and bad of both the NHS and modern medicines for a long time. But I have been shocked at just how cold blooded the pharma industry. I can only assume that it is run by sociopaths.

I have also had an eye opener at how ignorant certain doctors appear to be re some fundamentals of their job. Ditto nurses. 

think US companies are absolutely ruthless in pursuit of profits and if you're non US they take it to another level

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3 hours ago, ccc said:

I've always had whatever vaccinations I was told I needed. Never questioned it and barely even looked into them. 

However now my eyes have been very much opened. If they do this for these "vaccines" - why wouldn't they be equally dodgy about lots of other medicines out there. 

Maybe the huge rise in child asthma, eczema and allergies is linked to the increasing jab frenzy towards kids over recent decades. Correlation does not equal causation of course - but the timing certainly fits. 

I've certainly been fairly open minded around modern medicine for a long time now. Probably the best thing I learnt on TOS actually. Rarely take stuff unless I "have" to and look for more natural solutions to treat causes rather than symptoms. 

But this is a whole new level. 

Anyone in a similar position ? :ph34r:

https://youtu.be/0HAfxSCn71s?t=2210s

(Can't get time stamp to work. Go to 36:50). 

This whole section is worth listening to (up to 47 minutes). The pertinent bit to your query is at about 38ish. I've set it up to start a couple of minutes before that to give context to what is supposedly going on in the US military. 

 

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I’d usually have the flu jab but now I’m very reluctant.

I wouldn’t trust much my doctor told me now about any type of virus. I keep thinking they’re all in on it.

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12 minutes ago, Battenberg said:

I’d usually have the flu jab but now I’m very reluctant.

I wouldn’t trust much my doctor told me now about any type of virus. I keep thinking they’re all in on it.

I don't understand why doctors are still refusing to see their patients, it's absolutely criminal!

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steppensheep

Up until a few years ago, i was actually contemplating a future career as a pharma trials guinea pig. Seemed like an easy way to earn a few grand a year, maybe free travel to the big smoke.

 

I was already getting a bit reticent with stations, salt, nutrition etc and the medication of my mum and her oldie friends. I used to think old people were idiots, now I think doctors are idiots.

 

There was a topic on here or tos a few years ago, where I said the traditional vaccines should be reexamined to see if any new findings turned up.

 

It's not just the vaccines, I was reading about some other medicine which gets into your cells and messes with stuff, and I just thought, I bet no one has the faintest idea what the consequences might be.

 

Also read a few years ago that getting blood transfusions increases your risk of cancer. Surgeons try and really limit how much they give you. Everything has effects.

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24 minutes ago, Battenberg said:

I’d usually have the flu jab but now I’m very reluctant.

I wouldn’t trust much my doctor told me now about any type of virus. I keep thinking they’re all in on it.

I spent my very early years as an accountant specialising in GP practices. Hence I would end up having lunch with these guys a couple of times a week.

I also read Pulse and Medeconomics.

I have, since those times, never understood why people think GPs are the messiah. I don't think I ever met one that I thought was more than adequately intelligent.

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For a while I've been quite 'hesitant' about things like statins and just understanding the actual infancy of real knowledge we have as opposed to what we think we know.  A giveaway from the start generally was just looking at all the recalled drugs over the years despite initially coming with massive plaudits and fanfare. 

I only take an asthma inhaler prescribed.  I wouldn't have a problem with most other things such as antibiotics or say insulin if diabetic....saying that I would look outwith what was shoved at me from the NHS as well.

But this is a whole other level now indeed.  I'm a bit paranoid about all these new genetic targeted based medicines suddenly coming out.  Wouldn't be taking a wonder asthma one if offered but I probably wouldn't have seen an issue a few years ago (or more precisely just trusted the docs and BBC etc).  

Big wake up call is how controlled the 'science' is and how so many even in the health industry place undeserved complete trust in what their superiors or the MSM tells them (and which thus trickles down to patients etc).

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Syd Germs
3 hours ago, Loki said:

Never trusted it wholly since I started learning about nutrition/health.

 

Absolutely . #metoo

People have this idealised view of doctors and scientists.

They're just as venal and susceptible to group think as the rest. Perhaps even more. See a lot of hubris amongst them. Never come across one without a high opinion of themselves.

Gary Taubes opened my eyes.

He's an investigative journalistic who had looked into nuclear fusion and the bad science surrounding that when someone told him "If you think that is bad you should look into nutrition." and he did.

Below is the first part of the article where I first encountered him.

If I'd been "following the science" and what doctors, the Heart Foundation etc  were telling me then I would still be 4 stone overweight and not at the perfect weight I am now. Probably added 10 years or more of healthy living to my lifespan.

 

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Yadda yadda yadda

Previously I was aware that new drugs were a risk and that pharmaceutical companies would gladly make money on something that wasn't effective. There was also the well known phrase that pharmaceutical companies are in the business of treating illness rather than curing it. Now it is apparent that that there is a web of corruption that links pharmaceuticals, politicians, scientific funding, universities, charities, self-styled philanthropists, regulators, tech firms and, at the current time, the media. It is much like the tobacco firms when they denied the dangers of smoking.

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3 minutes ago, Harley said:

Me too.

From everything I've read and heard I should be.  My sister a couple of years ago messaged me that both her and my mum had slightly elevated cholesterol and suggested I get a test at some point.  I haven't yet but more out of just not being to the surgery or bothering to ask - I had decided I wasn't going to take statins anyway - at least not without investigating what other things I could do (or indeed if it was even an issue at all - I've saved a bit of a book regarding extra tests on iirc the lipid proteins or the ratio to see whether the elevated level was an indicator of something bad or not).  Tbh the whole statin industry just sounded very dodge and over-prescribing possibly the rule.

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