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WorkingPoor

Rise in lorry tachograph tampering on UK roads

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Well we knew it was happening and many innocent families have been wiped out by these illegal drivers on the road. Make no mistake this is a deliberate action.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41361351

More than 440 lorries crossing into the UK last year were found with manipulated tachographs, Britain's road regulator has said.

Tachographs are on-board digital recorders which keep track of the number of hours a driver has been on the road.

The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency believes a further 400 drivers were cheating, some using sophisticated "interrupters" to switch off the lorries' tachographs, but couldn't prove it.

The DVSA suspects that haulage bosses could be behind the use of the devices because they are complicated to install and are often found in more than one lorry from the same company.

"The results of falling asleep at the wheel of 44-tonne lorry can be devastating to families and communities," a spokeswoman said.

"Anything that means a driver can drive tired and we might not know about it or stop it is a worry. That's what we are here for, to keep the roads safe." 

Braking systems

The DVSA carried out 223,000 roadside checks between April 2016 and March 2017. 

5 live Investigates discovered there was a 21% increase in the number of drivers found with manipulated tachographs during that period compared with the previous year. 

The tachograph interrupters are being used mainly by European drivers who cross into the UK.

One Bulgarian driver discovered with a manipulated tachograph in north Wales in March had driven 23 hours non-stop. 

There is added danger because the interrupters disable a lorry's advanced braking systems and speedometers when they are being used.

The Department for Transport said there were 400,000 HGVs licensed in the UK at the end of 2016 and estimates there are 20,000 foreign registered HGVs in the UK at any given time.

Drivers 'pressured'

Dean Allan's mother, Diana, was killed by a driver who ploughed into the back of her car when he fell asleep at the wheel of his lorry.

Claudiu-Ioan Almasan was jailed for causing death by dangerous driving. He had not been been driving over his permitted hours nor had he cheated his tachograph when he hit Mrs Allan's car, but he had stayed up late on the night before the crash. 

"He was waiting for a phone call from his wife in another country and he'd stayed up late that evening to take the call, but he started his shift early the next morning," said Mr Allan. 

"He didn't deliberately set out to do what he did on the day - he was too tired. "

Local investigations suggest the use of the interrupters is higher than that found by the DVSA.

Sgt Steve Warren has been involved in a recent operation which arrested and charged 22 drivers who had been using the devices in Nottinghamshire. 

"Unfortunately, some of these drivers are not earning a lot of money," he said. "And they are telling us they are getting pressure from the company to use the device. I think they are readily available now and there are a lot more fitted to the vehicles."

Edited by WorkingPoor

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This is quite worrying. Didn't the Polish driver in the mini-bus crash a few weeks back, allegedly, not have a driving licence?

I look at Liveleak every day and it is truly frightening the number of lorry videos from Eastern Europe where some juggernaunt smashes into, and usually over, some passenger car. I was only thinking this morning how long before that becomes 'normalised' here in the UK.

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Road transport unions and trade bodies say hauliers from other European countries will risk getting caught with the technology because the penalties here are small, often a £300 fixed penalty.

But British companies whose drivers get caught manipulating their tachographs can be taken off the road by the Traffic Commissioner, which licenses hauliers in England, Scotland and Wales.

A European Commission initiative, called the European Register of Road Transport Undertakings, means an offence committed by a driver in one European country can lead to the closure of that driver's company in his or her home country.

But 5 Live Investigates found no evidence that the powers have ever been used in the five years the system has been working.

Neither Portugal nor Poland - whose drivers were caught 55 and 467 times last year respectively while driving with falsified tachographs on UK roads - have connected to the computer network yet. 

The European Commission is taking legal action against those countries, and Luxembourg, for not setting it up.

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The DVSA suspects that haulage bosses could be behind the use of the devices because they are complicated to install and are often found in more than one lorry from the same company.

So there are Haulage bosses based abroad who are sending fleets of HGV to Britain (& elsewhere) with Tachograph interuppters pre-fitted to their vehicles? 

(which also disable the vehicles advanced braking system?)

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I guess that the issue is one of enforcement. We could ban companies that are flouting the rules but they would set up,another. We could ban individual drivers (we should, that's a no brainer) but the company the drove for would just get new drivers. 

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2 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Impound the lorry and contents.

Auction both off.

Jail the driver.

Jail th transport company.

Excellent spy. The last one probably no as they will be in other eu countries but the rest, yes and should focus minds n

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7 hours ago, spygirl said:

Impound the lorry and contents.

Auction both off.

Jail the driver.

Jail th transport company.

Yes, they don't though which means they don't in fact really want to deter foreign trucks at some level.

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2 hours ago, SNACR said:

Yes, they don't though which means they don't in fact really want to deter foreign trucks at some level.

Because it's better to have a few British motorists slaughtered than risk offending the EU parliament.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the British people are just numbers to the government and they will only take active measures to protect them if it might win them some votes rather than because they think that they ought to naturally do this. 

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4 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Because it's better to have a few British motorists slaughtered than risk offending the EU parliament.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the British people are just numbers to the government and they will only take active measures to protect them if it might win them some votes rather than because they think that they ought to naturally do this. 

The globalisation juggernaut always rolls on in the background whatever politicians say publicly. I don't even think it stops fir minor trifles like votes.

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On 9/24/2017 at 19:33, WorkingPoor said:

The DVSA suspects that haulage bosses could be behind the use of the devices because they are complicated to install and are often found in more than one lorry from the same company.

So there are Haulage bosses based abroad who are sending fleets of HGV to Britain (& elsewhere) with Tachograph interuppters pre-fitted to their vehicles? 

(which also disable the vehicles advanced braking system?)

Thare`s a Polish (i think its Polish could be Chez) company that sells the software/cheats for tachographs online the same company sells the imobiliser bypass  devises for cars 

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Anyone who thinks this is a shock should have been operating HGVs before digital tachographs became commonplace.

It was de rigeur in the days of disc (wax) tachos to bend the stylus to allow a higher speed, or to use a magnet in a way that distorted the reading but that I never understood the purpose of.  And that is before you start with throwing cards out of the window, misusing attestation letters,  pulling fuses, etc.  Or - before that - drivers' log books, aka 'write a story'. 

Whenever there is serious capital involved, or potential benefits to the driver of 'running bent'', there will be shortcuts.  

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This could easily be solved with issuing lorries  at the ports with a GPS tracker connected to the mobile networks and a computer monitoring system. How much are GPS trackers nowadays, £20?

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1 minute ago, gibbon said:

This could easily be solved with issuing lorries  at the ports with a GPS tracker connected to the mobile networks and a computer monitoring system. How much are GPS trackers nowadays, £20?

You are Theresa 'Police State' May and I want £5...

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13 minutes ago, Horrified Onlooker said:

You are Theresa 'Police State' May and I want £5...

Couldn't give a fuck about monitoring foreign nationals who don't give a fuck about our laws anyway. If they don't like it don't work here. Been common place to track delivery vans by employers for years.

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Tescos track all their HGV fleet and you get a "debrief" at the end of your shift, they know everything and will ask "why did you stop for 12 minutes at such & such?" etc 

Prang the lorry and you get to meet a man with breifcase containing a drug testing kit! 

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Yes,  modern telematics are very comprehensive: Tesco will be able to identify excessive braking, overrevving, etc; and when +\-1mpg makes £100s of difference it is understandable.

i remember receiving a monumental bollocking in my driving days because my NS drive axle wheelnut indicators had melted.  Turns out the brake compensators were wildly out, and I received an apology; but even so, it shows that with the enormous costs involved, all operators are vigilant.

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I find it interesting as it sheds light on government priorities. They seem to be not taking this matter seriously when it can be seen to be dangerous and a threat to life. Meanwhile, there seems to be plod with mobile speed traps behind every hedge, waiting to pounce if one mile over the speed limit. 

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11 minutes ago, One percent said:

I find it interesting as it sheds light on government priorities. They seem to be not taking this matter seriously when it can be seen to be dangerous and a threat to life. Meanwhile, there seems to be plod with mobile speed traps behind every hedge, waiting to pounce if one mile over the speed limit. 

And they can have an urgent review of the law when a numpty cyclist without a front brake meets a HR woman glued to Tinder on her mobile.

But not Mr EE truck driver 3 sheets to the wind on Tyskie pulling up on a motorway for a kip and wiping out a minibus full of familes?  

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2 hours ago, gibbon said:

Couldn't give a fuck about monitoring foreign nationals who don't give a fuck about our laws anyway. If they don't like it don't work here. Been common place to track delivery vans by employers for years.

Yes, it will start with the foreigners, then it will be people with 6+ points on their license, and finally it will be everyone. But it's ok, you've nothing to fear if you're doing nothing wrong!

Government never helps, it just drives its own agenda...

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15 hours ago, Horrified Onlooker said:

Yes, it will start with the foreigners, then it will be people with 6+ points on their license, and finally it will be everyone. But it's ok, you've nothing to fear if you're doing nothing wrong!

Government never helps, it just drives its own agenda...

The old slippery slope logical fallacy...

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