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Taking the piss at the pump


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belfastchild
3 minutes ago, ccc said:

Dont know. I think the Tesla ones do in ten mins or so ? 

The wee shop will have a coffee stop in it. Maybe mini Tesco too. Plug your car in - do some shopping and have a coffee. Pay up. Off you trott. 

I saw an advert recently - BP I think. They've already some of these up and running. 

Did a run in a model 3 down and up to dublin last year. Took a lot longer than 10 minutes for a half charge, go for a piss, order burger king, sit and eat it etc type timing. My diesel car and do down and up 2.5 times at least on a full tank.
It was the using the power of the car to heat the battery so that it could take the supercharge that made me laugh, good luck with that if you are nearly empty. Thankfully the chargers were empty and working.
Tesla assisted driving took a wobbler as a lorry pulled out in front, scared the shite out of me as it accelerated towards the side of it.

I think they are great pieces of engineering (even if copied from elsewhere) but wouldnt spend my own money on one.

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2 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

In which case they are going need to seriously increase the number of pumps / plugs available. (Or reduce the number of cars)

Why ? Many will charge at home. These will just take up the slack. 

I do think the plan is to overall reduce the proles access to private cars though. However in theory - if they can get the electricity production in place - that's the Biggie - then I see no reason why all the UK cars today couldn't be changed to electric with few issues. 

As above though - I don't think that's the plan.

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1 minute ago, belfastchild said:

Did a run in a model 3 down and up to dublin last year. Took a lot longer than 10 minutes for a half charge, go for a piss, order burger king, sit and eat it etc type timing. My diesel car and do down and up 2.5 times at least on a full tank.
It was the using the power of the car to heat the battery so that it could take the supercharge that made me laugh, good luck with that if you are nearly empty. Thankfully the chargers were empty and working.
Tesla assisted driving took a wobbler as a lorry pulled out in front, scared the shite out of me as it accelerated towards the side of it.

I think they are great pieces of engineering (even if copied from elsewhere) but wouldnt spend my own money on one.

So maybe 20 or so for a full charge ? 

Doesn't really matter. How often do people fill up their cars from almost empty to full ? I reckon it's a very small % of pump visits. 

Most will stick £20 in. That's maybe 3-5 mins charging. No biggie. 

As I said though - I don't think this is the plan. I just think if it is - it can work fairly easily. 

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belfastchild
2 minutes ago, ccc said:

So maybe 20 or so for a full charge ? 

 

About an hour at the rapid charger. 20 odd mins was for a half charge to get 120 odd miles home with enough to spare for delays, overnight and next morning.

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5 minutes ago, belfastchild said:

About an hour at the rapid charger. 20 odd mins was for a half charge to get 120 odd miles home with enough to spare for delays, overnight and next morning.

So is that the Tesla super duper charger or another "rapid" charger ? 

If it's Tesla then their advertising has been iffy to say the least. 

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Just now, ccc said:

So is that the Tesla super duper charger or another "rapid" charger ? 

If it's Tesla then their advertising has been iffy to say the least. 

Its the tesla super duper super charger but not one of their superchargers although it said supercharger on the map and app and.... well it was certainly up to 150kw but more like 40 odds and the bays were empty and the first two superchargers didnt work.

I found out it was one of those tesla advertising things where you just plug it in and see what you get rather than being any strict numerical value.
 

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Wight Flight
7 hours ago, ccc said:

Why ? Many will charge at home. These will just take up the slack.

Maybe 20% will have that option.

In the last year I have never been to buy petrol where I haven't had to queue. Often 3 cars deep.

If a charge takes 10 minutes, that is a serious PITA.

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8 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

Maybe 20% will have that option.

In the last year I have never been to buy petrol where I haven't had to queue. Often 3 cars deep.

If a charge takes 10 minutes, that is a serious PITA.

You do live in the 1970's FFS :D

I've not queued once in that time. I get diesel once a month if that however. 

 

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Wight Flight
3 minutes ago, ccc said:

You do live in the 1970's FFS :D

I've not queued once in that time. I get diesel once a month if that however. 

 

That just isn't true. The bloke manning the pumps now wears Nike sponsored overalls, and the windscreen cleaner lad uses purified water so we are just as up to date as you North Island bunch.

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On 14/01/2022 at 23:32, Wight Flight said:

Maybe 20% will have that option.

In the last year I have never been to buy petrol where I haven't had to queue. Often 3 cars deep.

If a charge takes 10 minutes, that is a serious PITA.

 

Yes, you're ok if you have a garage or drive but many don't and when you start thinking about it as you walk or drive about the most densely packed housing doesn't have that and that's where most people live these days.

I've said about a 2000s extension to a 1970s estate. 

The 1970s estate is spaced out bungalows with decent gardens, drives and garages.  The ones on the flat could pave their front gardens and park maybe five cars in total.

The 2000s extension however is a handful of semis with the rest terraced and all two or even three stories.

Parking is on the road, both sides, or blocking the pavement with the inadequate drives. Rows over parking are common.

Nobody living on this 2000s extension could have an electric car because they would have no guarantee that they could charge it each night; it would be entirely pot luck if they could park outside their house on any particular night.

Add in flats and HMOs then your 20% begins to look right.

For everyone else it's either keep an ICE going, pay through the nose for fast chargers or an ebike that they can charge in the hallway.

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Wight Flight
1 hour ago, Frank Hovis said:

 

Yes, you're ok if you have a garage or drive but many don't and when you start thinking about it as you walk or drive about the most densely packed housing doesn't have that and that's where most people live these days.

I've said about a 2000s extension to a 1970s estate. 

The 1970s estate is spaced out bungalows with decent gardens, drives and garages.  The ones on the flat could pave their front gardens and park maybe five cars in total.

The 2000s extension however is a handful of semis with the rest terraced and all two or even three stories.

Parking is on the road, both sides, or blocking the pavement with the inadequate drives. Rows over parking are common.

Nobody living on this 2000s extension could have an electric car because they would have no guarantee that they could charge it each night; it would be entirely pot luck if they could park outside their house on any particular night.

Add in flats and HMOs then your 20% begins to look right.

For everyone else it's either keep an ICE going, pay through the nose for fast chargers or an ebike that they can charge in the hallway.

I had an hour's walk down through town to the beach and back yesterday. I was deliberately noticing the motors. It is really quite surprising just how many of our car stock is sub £3k cars parked on roads. You wouldn't notice it if you just drove round the leafy suburbs though.

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20 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

I had an hour's walk down through town to the beach and back yesterday. I was deliberately noticing the motors. It is really quite surprising just how many of our car stock is sub £3k cars parked on roads. You wouldn't notice it if you just drove round the leafy suburbs though.

That's coz you live on a retirement island :D

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