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A380 super blowout

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Passengers tweet photos of damaged engine, Airbus A380 before it lands at Happy Valley

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/air-france-emergency-landing-goose-bay-1.4315132

the plane landed safely in Goose Bay Airport at around 1:40 p.m. local time with part of the engine cowling missing, scattering debris across the runway. 

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Jesus, that's the whole first-fan that's gone and it's taken the cowling with it. That is proper serious, it could have taken a good chunk of the leading edge off.

I'm pretty sure the engine super-blowout was more than matched by the passengers sphincters when they saw that!

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Yep, a major fault on that engine or some maintenance failure.

For all the talk about how these engines are designed to survive these failiures it is not something that you would want - parts of those blades could have gone through the wing, through fuselage, cut fuel lines, fuel tanks. It could have been a lot worse.

Listening to the conversations between the flight deck and ground control the crew were concerned about how heavy the aircraft was and wanted it down ASAP - hence landing at CFB Goose Bay air force base.

For this to happen on to 2 different makes of engine would initially suggest that there is a maintenance procedure that is at fault or something common on the aircraft that feeds the engine - but that is just poor speculation at this time.

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The cowling is reinforced with loads of Kevlar or similar to contain the blades if there's a destructive failure. That lesson was learned after United Airlines 232 etc. I daresay it's not fun being on board when it happens but it shouldn't ever result in the loss of the plane on a modern aircraft.

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37 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Yep, a major fault on that engine or some maintenance failure.

For all the talk about how these engines are designed to survive these failiures it is not something that you would want - parts of those blades could have gone through the wing, through fuselage, cut fuel lines, fuel tanks. It could have been a lot worse.

 

I think the previous engine failure on the Quantas flight was far more serious as they lost hydraulics which is a proper brown trouser situation on an airliner. I think some debris on that plane actually penetrated the wing.

This one looks spectacular but, as I gather, no hydraulic or control lines were severed. So in terms of immediate seriousness, it's not as bad. All of that said, the cowling is supposed to contain that sort of disc failure. This just blew the entire lot off the aircraft (which could mean it's potentially done it's job).

Edit - As better described above by Rave which was posted as I typed. :)

Edited by Sgt Hartman

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22 minutes ago, Sgt Hartman said:

I think the previous engine failure on the Quantas flight was far more serious as they lost hydraulics which is a proper brown trouser situation on an airliner. I think some debris on that plane actually penetrated the wing.

This one looks spectacular but, as I gather, no hydraulic or control lines were severed. So in terms of immediate seriousness, it's not as bad. All of that said, the cowling is supposed to contain that sort of disc failure. This just blew the entire lot off the aircraft (which could mean it's potentially done it's job).

Edit - As better described above by Rave which was posted as I typed. :)

 

They were concerned about damage to the next engine according to the comms traffic. I should coco.

There was concern that they were OK on 3 but if they lost another one that they were worried about their weight.

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You really wouldn't want to lose both engines on one side of a four engine plane. I think in theory it could stay aloft with just one inboard engine, though- at least once you've done an emergency dump of 3/4 of the fuel.

I don't quite understand this, TBH:

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/11582/can-the-airbus-a380-safely-fly-with-two-engines-out-on-the-same-wing

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Was it serviced out of Charles De Gaulle?  

 

I highly suspect the level of muslim infiltration of that airport means that a mechanical failure due to deliberate actions will happen sooner or later.  

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21 minutes ago, wherebee said:

Was it serviced out of Charles De Gaulle?  

 

I highly suspect the level of muslim infiltration of that airport means that a mechanical failure due to deliberate actions will happen sooner or later.  

What with all of them being engineers that could be true.

Mind you it's Air France, I've read enough about them on Pprune to have them on my no fly list anyway.

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Air France seem to have quite a high number of fatalities and issues compared to established airlines that could be considered their peers...

Maybe sabotage, maybe their long lunches, maybe garlic. Who knows?

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1 hour ago, Bkkandrew said:

Air France seem to have quite a high number of fatalities and issues compared to established airlines that could be considered their peers...

Maybe sabotage, maybe their long lunches, maybe garlic. Who knows?

Aye.

It was their Concorde that did a Grenfell - not one of ours...!

 

XYY

 

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2 hours ago, Rave said:

You really wouldn't want to lose both engines on one side of a four engine plane. I think in theory it could stay aloft with just one inboard engine, though- at least once you've done an emergency dump of 3/4 of the fuel.

Well as it didn't end badly do you mind if I post a joke, seems quite relevant to this incident

Fifteen minutes into the flight the captain announced, "Ladies and gentlemen, one of our engines has failed. There is nothing to worry about. Our flight will take an hour longer than scheduled, but we still have three engines left."

Thirty minutes later the captain announced, "One more engine has failed and the flight will take an additional two hours. But don't worry . . . we can fly just fine on two engines."

An hour later the captain announced, "One more engine has failed and our arrival will be delayed another three hours. But don't worry... we still have one engine left."

An Irish (or blonde if you like) passenger turned to the passneger in the next seat and remarked, "For God's sake if we lose one more engine, we'll be up here all day!"

 

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28 minutes ago, One percent said:

And ended up grounding Concorde for good.  They have a lot to answer for the French 

Actually 911 did that. Not the crash. Something due to many of their regular clients stopping their busness trips to NY.

Just flown with AF, their new safety video is a joy. Probably reduce their fatality rate. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

I cant help thinking that this aircraft is at the limit of technology, its like trying to steer a skidding tank.

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<img class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="2202" src="https://www.dosbods.co.uk/uploads/monthly_2017_10/plane-landing.gif.89458fb592722eda095002579c0262b0.gif" alt="plane-landing.gif.89458fb592722eda095002579c0262b0.gif" />

http://video.metro.co.uk/video/met/2017/10/06/4356051167043564613/640x360_MP4_4356051167043564613.mp4

I'd imagine the passengers seated next to the rear bogs were wearing the contents of the shitter by the time that taxied to a halt.

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On 10/1/2017 at 17:42, Poseidon said:

Actually 911 did that. Not the crash. Something due to many of their regular clients stopping their busness trips to NY.

Just flown with AF, their new safety video is a joy. Probably reduce their fatality rate. 

 

The airlines do seem to be able to get some decent video produced:

 

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10 minutes ago, gibbon said:

The airlines do seem to be able to get some decent video produced:

 

Yep Thats pretty decent.

I suppose the brief was ' create something that sums up the complete opposite of the modern flying experience'

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