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I have a 2011 Octavia in povo spec, it’s an auto unfortunately and they are known for problems however we’ve not had issues with this one in the 4+ years we’ve had it.

Unprompted I got a letter from Skoda last September instructing me to take it to the main dealer for a recall on the mechatronic clutch, they provided and fitted a new clutch kit for free with a 2 year warranty, fine.

Then last week a driveshaft bolt has come out at the back of gearbox at low speed and put a hole in the gearbox casing.

So a gearbox issue not the clutch kit according to the main dealer so not a warranty claim.

Ok no worries, how much to fix it?

$10,000

Clearly they don’t want the work but I’m still aghast. $8k of that is the new gearbox. No discussion of repairing the existing one as allegedly they are a sealed unit from the factory 

Suggestions (other than setting light to it in a dark alley) are welcome...

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6 minutes ago, Sugarlips said:

 

 

I have a 2011 Octavia in povo spec, it’s an auto unfortunately and they are known for problems however we’ve not had issues with this one in the 4+ years we’ve had it.

Unprompted I got a letter from Skoda last September instructing me to take it to the main dealer for a recall on the mechatronic clutch, they provided and fitted a new clutch kit for free with a 2 year warranty, fine.

Then last week a driveshaft bolt has come out at the back of gearbox at low speed and put a hole in the gearbox casing.

So a gearbox issue not the clutch kit according to the main dealer so not a warranty claim.

Ok no worries, how much to fix it?

$10,000

Clearly they don’t want the work but I’m still aghast. $8k of that is the new gearbox. No discussion of repairing the existing one as allegedly they are a sealed unit from the factory 

Suggestions (other than setting light to it in a dark alley) are welcome...

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I'm worried this may happen to my EV's, oh wait, i forgot, it's a new $15000 battery every 8 years /  100k miles after the warranty expires. Phew, carry on. 

DSG boxes have always been a moneypit "lottery" . 

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Sugarlips
13 minutes ago, markyh said:

I'm worried this may happen to my EV's, oh wait, i forgot, it's a new $15000 battery every 8 years /  100k miles after the warranty expires. Phew, carry on. 

DSG boxes have always been a moneypit "lottery" . 

Okaay, thanks for that, next!

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How are the consumer protection laws over there when buying from a private seller? You could JBWeld up the hole, refill it with oil and punt it, or trade it in to a dealer.

Otherwise its a 2nd hand box and get an independent to fit it (or DIY it, you'll need the VCDS software to recode for it).

The bolts on the shaft would have probably needed to come out (not sure on DSGs, but certainly the case on manuals) to change the clutch. All new bolts should have been used and torqued up to spec, if one has come out then that was not done properly...

In the UK there are shops that will also rebuild boxes, swapping the housing wouldn't be nearly as expensive as if the internals had imploded... does kinda depend on where that fragment went and what damage it may have caused inside.

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34 minutes ago, Cosmic said:

How are the consumer protection laws over there when buying from a private seller? You could JBWeld up the hole, refill it with oil and punt it, or trade it in to a dealer.

Otherwise its a 2nd hand box and get an independent to fit it (or DIY it, you'll need the VCDS software to recode for it).

The bolts on the shaft would have probably needed to come out (not sure on DSGs, but certainly the case on manuals) to change the clutch. All new bolts should have been used and torqued up to spec, if one has come out then that was not done properly...

In the UK there are shops that will also rebuild boxes, swapping the housing wouldn't be nearly as expensive as if the internals had imploded... does kinda depend on where that fragment went and what damage it may have caused inside.

 

Thankyou. 

I will check the consumer rights but on an 11 year old car I doubt that much will come of it, it’s the Wild West out here,,

We shall source a local specialist then. Given we are leaving town in 10 days there is a good chance of it just getting parked up on the drive for a couple of years, deal with it when we get back, maybe there will be more getting scrapped round here by then (parts for Euro boxes in Perth can be scarce) if it’s going to need the box replacing I can’t see it coming to much more harm parked up.

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Sell it to someone who will strip it for parts. They can probably be used for Skoda's, VW and Audis of a similar age. 

I think that's what happened when I sold my 99 Bora to a couple of extremely looking shady weedge blokes. 

£430.

They could probably sell it's fairly new catalytic converter for that. Never mind the rest. 

Quite a good plan really. I reckon they sell parts to their mate who does repairs. How would anyone know if the gearbox put in was brand new or years old ?

Nice wee business idea. If you're dodge. 

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2 hours ago, ccc said:

Sell it to someone who will strip it for parts. They can probably be used for Skoda's, VW and Audis of a similar age. 

I think that's what happened when I sold my 99 Bora to a couple of extremely looking shady weedge blokes. 

£430.

They could probably sell it's fairly new catalytic converter for that. Never mind the rest. 

Quite a good plan really. I reckon they sell parts to their mate who does repairs. How would anyone know if the gearbox put in was brand new or years old ?

Nice wee business idea. If you're dodge. 

Right now even in the UK a broken 2011 plate Octy is worth more whole than in parts. It works when the parts are worth more than the whole. In Aus cars hold their value better than the UK and thus its definately worth more.

Not all cats are equal, some are worth quite a bit some are not.

Used car dealers will definately buy used parts to fit to cars they've got on their lot - I've broken dozens and sold to plenty of used car lots :)

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A skilled aluminium welder could patch that, doesn't look like a stressed part of the box as it is too thin, could possibly be patched in-situ and may well outlast the rest of the car.

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5 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

A skilled aluminium welder could patch that, doesn't look like a stressed part of the box as it is too thin, could possibly be patched in-situ and may well outlast the rest of the car.

Agreed, reckon cleaned up properly and degreased and the right adhesives / sealant / tape / mesh you could patch it enough for the life of the car too. I don't think there would be excessive pressure to blow out the repair.

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6 hours ago, Sugarlips said:

 

 

I have a 2011 Octavia in povo spec, it’s an auto unfortunately and they are known for problems however we’ve not had issues with this one in the 4+ years we’ve had it.

Unprompted I got a letter from Skoda last September instructing me to take it to the main dealer for a recall on the mechatronic clutch, they provided and fitted a new clutch kit for free with a 2 year warranty, fine.

Then last week a driveshaft bolt has come out at the back of gearbox at low speed and put a hole in the gearbox casing.

So a gearbox issue not the clutch kit according to the main dealer so not a warranty claim.

Ok no worries, how much to fix it?

$10,000

Clearly they don’t want the work but I’m still aghast. $8k of that is the new gearbox. No discussion of repairing the existing one as allegedly they are a sealed unit from the factory 

Suggestions (other than setting light to it in a dark alley) are welcome...

09DD2664-BB61-44D3-BFD3-DC3C9A82F96E.jpeg

The driveshaft and gearbox would be removed to fix the clutch. Looks like they didn't refit it all properly if a bolt came loose.

Go back to Skoda UK and complain, you might get further that way.

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Don Coglione
7 hours ago, markyh said:

I'm worried this may happen to my EV's, oh wait, i forgot, it's a new $15000 battery every 8 years /  100k miles after the warranty expires. Phew, carry on. 

DSG boxes have always been a moneypit "lottery" . 

"Dad, stop being a tit."

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Bobthebuilder
9 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

What's "DSG"...?

 

XYY

A shit VAG automatic gear box. Piece of shit with a dynamo thingy in it. Cost me nearly £7k on an out of warranty VW Caddy once.

Never again.

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3 minutes ago, Bobthebuilder said:

A shit VAG automatic gear box. Piece of shit with a dynamo thingy in it. Cost me nearly £7k on an out of warranty VW Caddy once.

Never again.

What's "VAG"...?

 

XYY

 

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Option5
Just now, Bobthebuilder said:

Really?

Volkswagen Audi Group.

Not officially

Just now, The XYY Man said:

Fuck off you German cunt...!!!!

;)

 

 XYY

Direct-Shift Gearbox.

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1 minute ago, Option5 said:

Direct-Shift Gearbox.

Er, OK.

Is that like my automatic gearbox that I can run through the gears with in manual mode, or something different...?

 

 XYY

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1 minute ago, The XYY Man said:

Er, OK.

Is that like my automatic gearbox that I can run through the gears with in manual mode, or something different...?

 

 XYY

It's an automated manual box which uses two clutches so you can select your next gear before you disengage the current gear.

It's supposed to provide seamless gearchanges and you can use it in automatic or semi manual mode.

Overcomplicated crap.

 

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4 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

Er, OK.

Is that like my automatic gearbox that I can run through the gears with in manual mode, or something different...?

 

 XYY

Its an auto box with direct up / down done from the gear stick. You can set them to auto or manuel, but they downshift auto even in the manuel mode.

Sorry, hes from Barcelona.

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3 minutes ago, Option5 said:

It's an automated manual box which uses two clutches so you can select your next gear before you disengage the current gear.

It's supposed to provide seamless gearchanges and you can use it in automatic or semi manual mode.

Overcomplicated crap.

 

Ah, OK.

I don't think mine does that two-clutch shit, thought it does do semi-manual.

 

 

 XYY

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1 minute ago, Bobthebuilder said:

Its an auto box with direct up / down done from the gear stick. You can set them to auto or manuel, but they downshift auto even in the manuel mode.

Sorry, hes from Barcelona.

Now I'm even more confused - mine does behave how you describe in manual mode.

That's not how Oppy described a DSG box.

 

 XYY

@Option5

 

 

 

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