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JackieO

Fisker batteries and the death of Tesla?

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Nicer looking than the Tesla, which is beginning to look a bit bland and boring now. Fisker wants to go with a volume car but that would be done by another manufacturer. All companies will have significantly better battery tech over the next decade so the race is on. Meanwhile the the generous subsidies will be pulled.

 

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15 minutes ago, JackieO said:

Fisker EV battery 'breakthrough' promises 500 miles of range and one minute charging

Wait til you can buy it. Otherwise, dont bother.

New battery technology has become the realm of science loons, like cold fusion was 20 odd years ago.

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4 minutes ago, stokiescum said:

no matter what we do they will tax the fk out of cars,

Agreed they now seem to be more bothered about the space they occupy than the emissions. Just filled a survey in for the business park we are on about how we travel to work and thats ultimately what they are bothered about as they probably want to put a unit in the carpark.

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1 minute ago, Frank Hovis said:

Wow; if this can be brought to production.

It would instantly turn the current range of electric cars into the Betamax of the twenty first century.

The current domestic "fast" chargers require a 16 amp spur to charge half the charge of this proposed fisker battery in about 6 hours. I'm not an electrician but I suspect that if if you try to consume double that total amount of power in under a minute you'll melt the cables for the entire street*.

*This is probably an exaggeration but the point is the infrastructure for this rapid delivery is presumably not there.

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2 minutes ago, Hail the Tripod said:

The current domestic "fast" chargers require a 16 amp spur to charge half the charge of this proposed fisker battery in about 6 hours. I'm not an electrician but I suspect that if if you try to consume double that total amount of power in under a minute you'll melt the cables for the entire street*.

*This is probably an exaggeration but the point is the infrastructure for this rapid delivery is presumably not there.

There's a neat way around this problem, say you have demand to charge one car per hour from each charging point if you store the energy locally then it doe not matter (in terms of grid supply) whether you charge it in 60minute or 6 minutes, just the charger apparatus, its own battery store and cabling need to handle fast charging as it can replenish from the supply at a lower rate. You re-use old car batteries as the energy store.

 

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8 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

Agreed they now seem to be more bothered about the space they occupy than the emissions. Just filled a survey in for the business park we are on about how we travel to work and thats ultimately what they are bothered about as they probably want to put a unit in the carpark.

 

It's still the cars causing the problem rather than the number of people.

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11 minutes ago, Hail the Tripod said:

The current domestic "fast" chargers require a 16 amp spur to charge half the charge of this proposed fisker battery in about 6 hours. I'm not an electrician but I suspect that if if you try to consume double that total amount of power in under a minute you'll melt the cables for the entire street*.

*This is probably an exaggeration but the point is the infrastructure for this rapid delivery is presumably not there.

You'd need a special connection for the tesla fast charge point too. 
Have been discussing this with him indoors this week.
 

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4 minutes ago, twocents said:

 

It's still the cars causing the problem rather than the number of people.

Landlord wants to get more business space on his plot to make more money, the only way he can do this is to build over the carpark.

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4 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

Landlord wants to get more business space on his plot to make more money, the only way he can do this is to build over the carpark.

 

Enter the solution for the landlord's benefit - more people from overseas and public transport for everyone?

The landlord can't do that - the car park space is needed for housing.  Indeed before long the entire business park will be needed for housing.

Edited by twocents

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9 minutes ago, onlyme said:

There's a neat way around this problem, say you have demand to charge one car per hour from each charging point if you store the energy locally then it doe not matter (in terms of grid supply) whether you charge it in 60minute or 6 minutes, just the charger apparatus, its own battery store and cabling need to handle fast charging as it can replenish from the supply at a lower rate. You re-use old car batteries as the energy store.

Doubtful that old batteries could be retasked in this way, I doubt they have anywhere near the required discharge rate. However, on reflection it probably doesn't matter if domestic chargers take 15 minutes, or even an hour. You only really need the superfast 1 minute charging at a commercial charging point when you're out and about.

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"If electric vehicles up one third of the car market, it could knock out 9 million barrels a day of demand, or 90% of Saudi daily output"

and Trump just authorised $350 billion arms sales to bomb the crap out of Iran.

Middle East bombed back to the stone age?

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Just now, JackieO said:

"If electric vehicles up one third of the car market, it could knock out 9 million barrels a day of demand, or 90% of Saudi daily output"

and Trump just authorised $350 billion arms sales to bomb the crap out of Iran.

Middle East bombed back to the stone age?

Where's all the fooking electric coming from to charge the bloody things? We'll need oil power stations to make the 'leccy.

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If they're all having to be charged though - will this put an end to unregistered vehicles?

Figures from the Department for Transport show that 1.8% of vehicles were unlicensed in 2017 compared with 0.6% on 2013.

"The principle of abolishing the tax disc to introduce greater efficiencies has, so far, evidently failed," said RAC public affairs manager Nicholas Lyes.

Edited by sarahbell

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18 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Where's all the fooking electric coming from to charge the bloody things? We'll need oil power stations to make the 'leccy.

Oil accounts for less than 8% of electricity generation currently. There are plenty of opportunities to develop additional renewable and nuclear supply.

Edited by Hail the Tripod

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