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spygirl

independent + Fake news/clickbait + Animal sentience

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As Ive repeatedly said, The Independent is run by a bunch of Trot kids. Seriously.

This has been popping up on FB by several 'anti-Cons/leftards over the last few days.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-government-vote-animal-sentience-cant-feel-pain-eu-withdrawal-bill-anti-science-tory-mps-a8065161.html

One, it muddles Animal sentience and pain.

Two, its fake news

https://order-order.com/2017/11/23/viral-animal-sentience-fake-news-story-seen-by-2-million-people/

 

Indies trying to spin out.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-mps-animal-rights-eu-feel-pain-fake-news-fox-hunting-conservatives-guido-fawkes-a8072046.html

Ealier inthe series:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-mps-animal-rights-eu-feel-pain-fake-news-fox-hunting-conservatives-guido-fawkes-a8072046.html

Trying to hitch an exit from animal care onto Brexit.

The Indie is fucking insane. There cannot be any editors or control on what the people write.

The papers been hijacked by a bunch of loons.

Nonsensical article, written by:

https://jveseybyrne.com/

' I am a writer from Sheffield, living in London. My background is in history, and history of art, as well as politics and campaigning. Since April 2016 I have been reporting for indy100 from The Independent. '

 

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Ten years ago I spent several nights a week in a hotel which gave free copies of the printed version of the Independent to guests. I absolutely loved reading it over breakfast. Fast forward to last year and I've got some RSS type app on my phone which I configured for various news sources, one of them being the Independent. I was genuinely shocked at the content that they distributed - if they could find an anti-Brexit or anti-Trump angle to a cat getting stuck up a tree in Croydon, they'd write an article about it with a rabidly anti-brexit or anti-trump headline. It was absolutely ridiculous.

I don't know about the published version but what they were sending out via that app made them look like a bunch of mental case loons.

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What a muddled mess.  It is easy to spot Fake News though - look at the photo and headline that have been carefully selected. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-mps-animal-rights-eu-feel-pain-fake-news-fox-hunting-conservatives-guido-fawkes-a8072046.html

I clicked through to this other story:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-fox-hunting-conservatives-tories-ban-bring-back-repeal-hunting-act-general-election-2017-a7737881.html

Now, just to clarify I can't abide foxhunting and support violent action against those who partake in it, but that doesn't mean I appreciate the obvious one sided journalism either.  Why is there literally NO newspaper that even strives to be neutral any more? Its just trash and leads impressionable idiots to form hardline opinions. If the government had any balls they'd tackle this menace of megabias in the MSM once and for all. The Tories are in such a mess that, since Dave, they have instead been trying to court the leftwing media rather than regulate it. It'll never work.

 

FYI, there is, quite surprisingly, a decent and straightforward article on this on the Mirror website about all this:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/no-mps-not-pass-vote-11572216

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4 hours ago, spunko2010 said:

What a muddled mess.  It is easy to spot Fake News though - look at the photo and headline that have been carefully selected. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-mps-animal-rights-eu-feel-pain-fake-news-fox-hunting-conservatives-guido-fawkes-a8072046.html

I clicked through to this other story:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-fox-hunting-conservatives-tories-ban-bring-back-repeal-hunting-act-general-election-2017-a7737881.html

Now, just to clarify I can't abide foxhunting and support violent action against those who partake in it, but that doesn't mean I appreciate the obvious one sided journalism either.  Why is there literally NO newspaper that even strives to be neutral any more? Its just trash and leads impressionable idiots to form hardline opinions. If the government had any balls they'd tackle this menace of megabias in the MSM once and for all. The Tories are in such a mess that, since Dave, they have instead been trying to court the leftwing media rather than regulate it. It'll never work.

 

FYI, there is, quite surprisingly, a decent and straightforward article on this on the Mirror website about all this:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/no-mps-not-pass-vote-11572216

Well the thing with sentient being and all that, is a slippery slope for the animals.

Yes, animals feel pain - even down to slugs and ants FFS.

Yes, they have memory and an ability to think, even goldfish - just look at a Koi carp pond and see them workign stuff out.

However, if they are sentient, waht happens to, say, a Cat that kills a bird - another sentient being,,

Or a Dog that attacks a sheep??

 

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1 hour ago, spygirl said:

Well the thing with sentient being and all that, is a slippery slope for the animals.

Yes, animals feel pain - even down to slugs and ants FFS.

Yes, they have memory and an ability to think, even goldfish - just look at a Koi carp pond and see them workign stuff out.

However, if they are sentient, waht happens to, say, a Cat that kills a bird - another sentient being,,

Or a Dog that attacks a sheep??

 

The bird gets eaten? :ph34r:

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And again, this time a lot of poltical charged.

https://order-order.com/2017/11/27/labour-spreads-bbcs-incorrect-universal-credit-story/#disqus_thread

The supposed proper reporters at the So-Called BBC just blindly taking a story from The Independent because it suits their political agenda.

The moron on MoneyBox running with it, despite being told by his own researchers that the numbers are wrong.

At the very least, the moneybox presenter should be sacked.

Again, they are treating The Independent as a proper newspaper. Its not, not any more.

 

 

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