Council Tax rage

[Calcutta]

Have just had my first council tax bill after a few years in HMOs.

Fucking 1600 quid the robbing cunts.

My bins are collected privately, the police are non existent, there's no chance they're going to fill in all the potholes.

What I want to know is do councils provide any other service I could avail myself of to try and at least get some value for my money?

Do they actually achieved anything except steal money and give it to scum?

[leonardratso]

nothing.

no.

You know the answers.

[Frank Hovis]

They used to provide decent adult education at a very cheap price but now unless you have the magic benefits card you are paying full whack, and it's almost all art or alternative medicine courses.

We do have some decent parks and gardens to enjoy, and the CT is funding those.

[Spiney Norman]

Most of your £1600 will end up in the local government pension scheme.

Tuff titty slave. Now get back to work.

[Ash4781b]

1 hour ago, Frank Hovis said:

They used to provide decent adult education at a very cheap price but now unless you have the magic benefits card you are paying full whack, and it's almost all art or alternative medicine courses.

We do have some decent parks and gardens to enjoy, and the CT is funding those.

My local council park has car parking. It was free but the new charge is now £2.50 for all day ticket. There is no 1hour ticket. Really annoys me this kind of thing. But I guess it will stop the usual filling up the park?

[Frank Hovis]

3 minutes ago, Ash4781b said:

My local council park has car parking. It was free but the new charge is now £2.50 for all day ticket. There is no 1hour ticket. Really annoys me this kind of thing. But I guess it will stop the usual filling up the park?

 

Yes, I have similar mixed feelings as you want there to be spaces in the car park but don't want it to be too expensive.  £2.50 for the day sounds ok.

What annoys me is where, and I only have the one example, an area only used for walkers where people have always parked by the road and I have never seen the area even half full, has tight time restrictions placed upon it.  Not a fee, just max 2 hours and you can't do the full walk in two hours (down to Praa Sands) unless you barely stop.  That is being a pian for teh sake of it.

[One percent]

3 hours ago, Calcutta said:

Have just had my first council tax bill after a few years in HMOs.

Fucking 1600 quid the robbing cunts.

My bins are collected privately, the police are non existent, there's no chance they're going to fill in all the potholes.

What I want to know is do councils provide any other service I could avail myself of to try and at least get some value for my money?

Do they actually achieved anything except steal money and give it to scum?

On the positive side, you will be losing your single person discount shortly. 

[HousePriceMania]

5 hours ago, Calcutta said:

Have just had my first council tax bill after a few years in HMOs.

Fucking 1600 quid the robbing cunts.

My bins are collected privately, the police are non existent, there's no chance they're going to fill in all the potholes.

What I want to know is do councils provide any other service I could avail myself of to try and at least get some value for my money?

Do they actually achieved anything except steal money and give it to scum?

As Krusty says ( the council ) can't lose on pwopatee.

 

She normally omits the council bit·

[Wight Flight]

6 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

 

Yes, I have similar mixed feelings as you want there to be spaces in the car park but don't want it to be too expensive.  £2.50 for the day sounds ok.

What annoys me is where, and I only have the one example, an area only used for walkers where people have always parked by the road and I have never seen the area even half full, has tight time restrictions placed upon it.  Not a fee, just max 2 hours and you can't do the full walk in two hours (down to Praa Sands) unless you barely stop.  That is being a pian for teh sake of it.

We have an hour free in two of the seafront car parks. Not quite long enough for a quick lunch so it is £4.60 for two hours.

Doesn't really raise much money as 50% of people don't have to pay it.

[MrXxxx]

8 hours ago, Calcutta said:

Have just had my first council tax bill after a few years in HMOs.

Fucking 1600 quid the robbing cunts.

My bins are collected privately, the police are non existent, there's no chance they're going to fill in all the potholes.

What I want to know is do councils provide any other service I could avail myself of to try and at least get some value for my money?

Do they actually achieved anything except steal money and give it to scum?

...I also tried to find an image of a Council Tax Bill and someone being held by their testicles, but this is the nearest I could come up with.....

.......Just imagine Vinne is your local council worker and your testicles are their big fat DB pension!

 

Edited September 20 by MrXxxx

[Wight Flight]

8 hours ago, Calcutta said:

Have just had my first council tax bill after a few years in HMOs.

Fucking 1600 quid the robbing cunts.

My bins are collected privately, the police are non existent, there's no chance they're going to fill in all the potholes.

What I want to know is do councils provide any other service I could avail myself of to try and at least get some value for my money?

Do they actually achieved anything except steal money and give it to scum?

It's not really £1,600. It is nearer £5k but the balance is paid from your other taxes.

it would be much more honest if they dropped that aspect and put the whole lot on council tax.

[One percent]

5 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

It's not really £1,600. It is nearer £5k but the balance is paid from your other taxes.

it would be much more honest if they dropped that aspect and put the whole lot on council tax.

5k to empty the bins and put the street lights on.  

[Shits McGee]

8 hours ago, Calcutta said:

Do they actually achieved anything except steal money and give it to scum?

Yes they also fail to keep the weeds in the verges under control and the trees pruned

[Wight Flight]

1 hour ago, One percent said:

5k to empty the bins and put the street lights on.  

And wipe the arses of the old folk and scratter's kids.

[One percent]

4 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

And wipe the arses of the old folk and scratter's kids.

And pay the share of the multitudes on bennies who are exempt from paying. 

[Wight Flight]

Just now, One percent said:

And pay the share of the multitudes on bennies who are exempt from paying. 

Not to mention subsidising single people in big houses.

[spunko]

I can't remember who but there's a member on here who said they didn't pay theirs for a bit and they got away with it. I cancelled my direct debit a few days ago, going to test this out. Worst comes to the worst I'll just pay it the day before the court hearing - but from what I've read on here and elsewhere, it's very rare to go to court over it unless you avoid it for years.

It seems as long as you start paying it again, the amount in arrears gets sent to a "debt collection agency" and then forgotten about.

I'm sure there will be some members on here who say "why dont you just pay it, you can afford it". Yes, I can afford it. But it's a pisstake to pay £3k a year for a 2 bed cottage. I'm in the position where if they do cancel my monthly plan and demand it all up front I can pay it then, so may as well chance it.

I don't pay council parking tickets either and just risk it. Been caught twice in about 10 years. Dont pay the Telly Tax. SORN my car every so often and still drive it. Nobody cares, once you realise that it's a pisstake and easy to avoid the entire allure of paying for things because you "have to" starts to fall away.

(PHHOOOAR! etc)

Edited September 21 by spunko

[One percent]

15 hours ago, Wight Flight said:

Not to mention subsidising single people in big houses.

How are people in big houses being subsidised?  It’s about the resources you use that someone has got to pay for. A large family in the same house will take a lot more resources. 

[spunko]

3 minutes ago, One percent said:

How are people in big houses being subsidised?  It’s about the resources you use that someone has got to pay for. A large family in the same house will take a lot more resources. 

And it isnt even big houses. Mine is Band G, second highest, despite being 1500 sq ft.

House 2 doors up is 7,000 sq ft and same band.

[One percent]

6 minutes ago, spunko said:

And it isnt even big houses. Mine is Band G, second highest, despite being 1500 sq ft.

House 2 doors up is 7,000 sq ft and same band.

The whole system is an absolute dog’s dinner 

[spunko]

Just now, One percent said:

The whole system is an absolute dog’s dinner 

Yes it is, the problem is that there is widespread belief even on here as evidenced by @Wight Flight that council tax bands represent the size of the house so in this so called "Progressive" tax society we have in the UK, where people want wealthy people to pay more, they blindly support it, without realising that it's not applied fairly.

[One percent]

6 minutes ago, spunko said:

Yes it is, the problem is that there is widespread belief even on here as evidenced by @Wight Flight that council tax bands represent the size of the house so in this so called "Progressive" tax society we have in the UK, where people want wealthy people to pay more, they blindly support it, without realising that it's not applied fairly.

But surely, council tax is supposed to pay for local services, so basing it on the ‘value’ of a property is madness. Im not saying this from vested interest as mine is a D band.  I think I’m coming to the view that the poll tax was a much fairer system but that got stopped. I also think that everyone should pay. Maybe a discount for those with a low income, it should not be as crude as the Bennie free pass though.  I do agree that those with more than one property should be charged more given the pressure on housing, it’s one way to discourage the house hoarders.  I don’t really know what the answer is but do know that it will become less equitable under liebour 

[Joncrete Cungle]

9 minutes ago, spunko said:

Yes it is, the problem is that there is widespread belief even on here as evidenced by @Wight Flight that council tax bands represent the size of the house so in this so called "Progressive" tax society we have in the UK, where people want wealthy people to pay more, they blindly support it, without realising that it's not applied fairly.

It's strange and not how most people blindly see it. I was having a look at places for sale in my locality and found a band B place that's larger than our 4 bed house. I was part way through working out how long it would take for the savings in council tax to outweigh the legal fees and stamp duty payable if we moved there.

[spunko]

8 minutes ago, One percent said:

But surely, council tax is supposed to pay for local services, so basing it on the ‘value’ of a property is madness. Im not saying this from vested interest as mine is a D band.  I think I’m coming to the view that the poll tax was a much fairer system but that got stopped. I also think that everyone should pay. Maybe a discount for those with a low income, it should not be as crude as the Bennie free pass though.  I do agree that those with more than one property should be charged more given the pressure on housing, it’s one way to discourage the house hoarders.  I don’t really know what the answer is but do know that it will become less equitable under liebour 

Well the truly fair way would be to get people who use local services often, to pay more. Wealthy people, if we are to assume they all live in Band G-H houses, rarely use local services (they will often have private healthcare rather than use the local GP, wont use social services, wont send their kids to the local sink school, rarely use the bus, etc) , yet are expected to shoulder the costs even more.

[onlyme]

On 20/09/2024 at 13:26, Frank Hovis said:

 

Yes, I have similar mixed feelings as you want there to be spaces in the car park but don't want it to be too expensive.  £2.50 for the day sounds ok.

What annoys me is where, and I only have the one example, an area only used for walkers where people have always parked by the road and I have never seen the area even half full, has tight time restrictions placed upon it.  Not a fee, just max 2 hours and you can't do the full walk in two hours (down to Praa Sands) unless you barely stop.  That is being a pian for teh sake of it.

No stopping at the Sand Bar for a pint then, nice place, summer with the terrace and winter with the picture windows. Only been in winter so easy parking in bar's car park for free as price off admission. Guess it is rammed in summer.