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    • By Happy Renting
      [Edited]
      There is a danger of a second Referendum where Remain is made a Referenduman option, and the Leave vote split between two options, Deal or no Deal options.
      Unless transferable votes are used (or even if), even a minority of Remainers could win a second Referendum.
      This would tie the Government's hands to negotiate to Remain at any cost. This would be disastrous for the UK.
      Article 50 dictates that we leave on 29 March 2019.
      As this is an Article of a Treaty, it can only be set aside with the unanimous consent of all EU members at the highest level.
      It would only take one EU member to obstruct this to place the UK in an impossible position.
      If we petitioned to Remain, or extend time to negotiate a better deal, I am absoloutely certain that the EU would exploit this to the UK's extreme disadvantage.
      In particular, we would be obliged to join the Euro, as all new EU member states already are.
      Secondly, we would lose our EU rebate, which expires in 2021 anyway. It would not be renewed and we would probably be forced to increase our EU contributions on top of that.
      Additionally, pressure could be exerted by Ireland and Spain relating to the borders or status of NI and Gibraltar.
      The UK's nuclear deterrent could come under the control of an EU-wide military force, and so we could lose overall control of our deterrent. This would conflict with NATO obligations and could paralyze our military options.
      I think we still have vetos on certain other EU policies, which we would be forced to surrender.
      I hear no politicians or journalists telling us this.
      We may be sleepwalking into a disaster.
      The one hope is that with our current political chaos, it will be impossible to organse a second Referendum in time to halt our Leaving.
      Ironically, the longer the disasterous Treason May hangs on, the less likely a Second Referendum to Remain will take place.
      Our best hope now is we stay with this useless crone and grit our teeth for Leaving without a deal - a 'Hard Brexit'. The opportunity for a good deal has been wasted thorugh her utter incompetence.
      I see little prospect of the EU improving the terms for our Leaving. There is little incentive for them to do so.
      After Leaving,  Article 49 would define the process for rejoining and the implications (like joining the Euro) would have to be made clearer to the public.
      TLDR; We are either badly fucked, or really totally fucked.
       
    • By Chewing Grass
      Have decided to boost my larder with extra dried stuff (well stocked with canned) after the weekends scareganda in the media so I can last six weeks without having to fight the local retards in the supermarket for basics.
      Have also added some bagged popcorn to the list as comfort food while I watch the mayhem of the fuckwitts.
    • By The Masked Tulip
      This story was quietly released over the Bank holiday weekend and has got next to no mainstream UK Press coverage - mainly because it goes against the apparent agenda and highlights what naive, gullible fools lots of UK media folk are.
      I think this is pretty major.
      It is basically Facebook admitting, by closing down some 600 plus pages, groups and accounts, that a foreign power, in this case Iran, has been using social media to influence opininion on several matters key to the unity and security of the UK - namely BREXIT, Scottish Independence and with positive media for one Jeremy Corbyn. Israel, and UK opinion of Israel, is also mentioned but you have to wonder whether this also includes the big rise of anti-semitism on UK social media.
      Not a dicky bird from the UK mainstream media about this. If it had been, for example, pro-Trump stuff then you can imagine the hysteria.
      But this is OUR country and this suggests that a foreign power, Iran, was interfering in our internal politics.
      So why no mainstream coverage?
      Why aren't the likes of the So-Called BBC, Sky News, etc, screaming hell about this? Why aren't our politicians? Are any of them even aware that this happened?
      Well, our mainstream media seems to focus on breaking up the UK as a good thing. It is also, IMPO, increasingly pro muslim and anti-Israel/Jewish people. No need to say anything about BREXIT. Then there is Corbyn.
      Does this Facebook story simply highlight something much bigger going on in the UK with how public opinion is shaped and presented? I suspect it does.
      Look at the almost hourly row in the US about possible Russian use of social media to influence the last US election. Then consider how this story about the UK got pushed out on a wet bank holiday weekend, was given virtually no coverage and then was buried.
      Facebook Shuts Down Iran-Linked Pages Attacking Brexit and Israel, Backing Corbyn and Scottish Separatists
      https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/26/facebook-shuts-down-iran-linked-anti-brexit-pro-corbyn-snp-pages/
       
      This is a huge story. It should have had massive coverage. You have to ask yourselves why not.
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