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'And a Brexit that will be fair for all'

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5 minutes ago, Carl Fimble said:

No watering down!

I'm afraid it will be, the betrayal has been planned since day 1.

What the GE is about is removing the ability of the populace to remove the government in 2020 when the betrayal finally becomes clear to all those who can't see it yet. 

There will be no 2yr negotiation period it will be 3+ yrs followed by a transitional period which will be dragged on as long as possible. 

(this is already being spelled out in a BBC news story tonight) 

The sole aim from day 1 has been to avert large scale countrywide peaceful protest by 17M+ people

Has any country in history dealt with a peaceful protest involving 17 million people? 

 

Edited by WorkingPoor

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5 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

I'm afraid it will be, the betrayal has been planned since day 1.

What the GE is about is removing the ability of the populace to remove the government in 2020 when the betrayal finally becomes clear to all those who can't see it yet. 

There will be no 2yr negotiation period it will be 3+ yrs followed by a transitional period which will be dragged on as long as possible. 

(this is already being spelled out in a BBC news story tonight) 

The sole aim from day 1 has been to avert large scale countrywide peaceful protest by 17M+ people

Has any country in history dealt with a peaceful protest involving 17 million people? 

 

Most likely right...

http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86448

Then, having already realised she is between the rock of a "no deal" and the hard place of an unattainable free trade deal, she can devote her attention to crafting a "not the EEA" agreement that covers all the same bases but qualifies as something new and different. 

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I will post up the bbc link:

Brexit deadline a specific factor in snap poll move

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39636471

Under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, that's when the Tories would be starting to prepare for a general election the following year, with what one cabinet minister described as certain "political needs".

In other words, the government would be exposed to hardball from the EU because ministers would be desperate to avoid accepting anything that would be politically unpopular, or hold the Brexit process up, at the start of a crucial election cycle.

As one insider put it: "We'd be vulnerable to the rest of the EU in 2019 because they know we'd have to move fast." 

Ministers say that's the central reason for May's change of heart because "if there was an election in three years, we'd be up against the clock".

By holding the election now, Theresa May hopes she gains a fresh start on the political clock on Brexit, even though the Article 50 process still has a deadline of only two years.

This gives what was described as "flexibility over the logistics of Brexit… we don't have to pretend we can do it all in two years".

'Window' of opportunity

That's not to say for a second this means departure from the EU will be held up. The Article 50 process will proceed, the government says, exactly as planned.

But, if the Tories win, an early election may have bought ministers some valuable breathing space to work out what the UK really looks like outside the EU.

They'll have, in theory, three years after exit for things to settle down before the public get another chance to have their say.

Arron Banks et al need to move fast

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6 hours ago, WorkingPoor said:

I'm afraid it will be, the betrayal has been planned since day 1.

What the GE is about is removing the ability of the populace to remove the government in 2020 when the betrayal finally becomes clear to all those who can't see it yet. 

There will be no 2yr negotiation period it will be 3+ yrs followed by a transitional period which will be dragged on as long as possible. 

(this is already being spelled out in a BBC news story tonight) 

The sole aim from day 1 has been to avert large scale countrywide peaceful protest by 17M+ people

Has any country in history dealt with a peaceful protest involving 17 million people? 

 

I have to agree that's the more likely looking scenario to me.

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6 hours ago, WorkingPoor said:

I'm afraid it will be, the betrayal has been planned since day 1.

What the GE is about is removing the ability of the populace to remove the government in 2020 when the betrayal finally becomes clear to all those who can't see it yet. 

There will be no 2yr negotiation period it will be 3+ yrs followed by a transitional period which will be dragged on as long as possible. 

(this is already being spelled out in a BBC news story tonight) 

The sole aim from day 1 has been to avert large scale countrywide peaceful protest by 17M+ people

Has any country in history dealt with a peaceful protest involving 17 million people? 

 

I voted remain.

I don think this is the case.

The UK is goingout.

First, we had people saying artricle 50 wont be invoked. It was.

Now its people saying - Oh theyll just drag it on + on. The horse tradiing will take some time but we are on our way out of the EU

We are not leaving Europe - we canot move the country. But we are out of the EU.

 

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7 hours ago, WorkingPoor said:

I'm afraid it will be, the betrayal has been planned since day 1.

What the GE is about is removing the ability of the populace to remove the government in 2020 when the betrayal finally becomes clear to all those who can't see it yet. 

There will be no 2yr negotiation period it will be 3+ yrs followed by a transitional period which will be dragged on as long as possible. 

(this is already being spelled out in a BBC news story tonight) 

The sole aim from day 1 has been to avert large scale countrywide peaceful protest by 17M+ people

Has any country in history dealt with a peaceful protest involving 17 million people? 

 

Quite agree...they never intended to deliver Brexit or Cameron would have triggered as promised the day after the first one....

brexit 2nd referendum.jpg

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Remember how it was sold to us in 1972 .......a 'Trade Agreement'  it is anything but ...it's a systemic control system....with no leavers allowed .....it is a communist system....58f70a8503979_socialism....jpg.49c866eae0aff93fe91f359dd6c00793.jpg

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They are gambling on dragging it out into the early 2020's to put 4-5yrs between the referendum and anything meaningful happening re brexit, 

They want to remove to option for the public to deselect the government in may 2020

so they can see their plan through.

Another 5yrs of this country being flooded by immigration 

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2 hours ago, suzieq said:

Quite agree...they never intended to deliver Brexit or Cameron would have triggered as promised the day after the first one....

brexit 2nd referendum.jpg

This gives them another 3 years to arrange a watered down deal. Clearly no deal is no longer on the cards.

 

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45 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

They are gambling on dragging it out into the early 2020's to put 4-5yrs between the referendum and anything meaningful happening re brexit, 

They want to remove to option for the public to deselect the government in may 2020

so they can see their plan through.

Another 5yrs of this country being flooded by immigration 

Quite, though I heard david Davis keeping the same line today.

I think that after 2 years of falling living standards may will say "we can't leave to much economic risk" and accept a Norway type deal. 

Sounds !ike she has a plan and it isn't going to be what the people voted for.

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6 hours ago, WorkingPoor said:

They are gambling on dragging it out into the early 2020's to put 4-5yrs between the referendum and anything meaningful happening re brexit, 

They want to remove to option for the public to deselect the government in may 2020

so they can see their plan through.

Another 5yrs of this country being flooded by immigration 

Time to look up the Coudeneuve Kalergi Plan. That's what underpins the EU with the Charlemagne Prize being awarded yearly to the one who diversifies us the most.

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