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Now this is going to be fun.

Boris proposing an amnesty for anyone that arrived over 10 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4967690/Million-illegal-immigrants-not-removed-UK.html

That figure could be over 1m people.

We can look at this in three ways.

1. Boris is an idiot and this won't happen. But it will throw the spotlight on just how many are here already, how many arrive every year (estimated up to 250k), what part of the system they are using and how big the black economy is.

2. Boris and the snowflake class get their way. Can you imagine the effect of suddenly allowing 1m people access to the UK system. We are being told that the advantage is that they will now start paying tax. Not being mentioned that they will now be able to claim benefits (I can't believe there are 1m engineers and doctors living here illegally), apply for jobs and rent rooms.

Can you imagine what will happen to schools, flat rentals, the NHS and the welfare system if you inject 1m people into it overnight. I think even the most pro-immigration person would notice.

3. Or is Boris playing a brexit blinder and getting everyone to really assess what continued immigration will do to the country?

FWIW, I think option 2 is the most likely. And then the rise of the far right is almost inevitable when people see what liblabcon has allowed to happen over the last twenty years.

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10 minutes ago, Cunning Plan said:

Now this is going to be fun.

Boris proposing an amnesty for anyone that arrived over 10 years ago.

 

Can you imagine what will happen to schools, flat rentals, the NHS and the welfare system if you inject 1m people into it overnight. I think even the most pro-immigration person would notice.

They're already here and that's why there's a housing crisis, an NHS crisis and a welfare system crisis. 

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24 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

They're already here and that's why there's a housing crisis, an NHS crisis and a welfare system crisis. 

Yes, they are. But they can't rent or work legally so they are propping up slumlords and gangmasters.

I don't know if, as an illegal, you can claim any benefits (I guess the NHS is accessible) or even send your kid to school.

All this needs to come out into the open. If we discover we have 1m people here who can't pay tax but can claim everything then I think it might go a bit tonto.

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13 minutes ago, dgul said:

I think we, as a country, need to have a proper discussion about what borders are for. 

 

  

The fact that a sizeable portion of the population truly believes that borders are unnecessary suggests this won't happen.

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Tories will destroy themselves.

Sweden has admitted that over half of their migrants re the past 8 years do not work. The majority of Merkel's lot are not working. They have no incentive and eventually the penny will drop with British people that it is not worth working to pay taxes for them... but when we stop working we will be at the back of all the queues.

3 minutes ago, Cunning Plan said:

Yes, they are. But they can't rent or work legally so they are propping up slumlords and gangmasters.

I don't know if, as an illegal, you can claim any benefits (I guess the NHS is accessible) or even send your kid to school.

All this needs to come out into the open. If we discover we have 1m people here who can't pay tax but can claim everything then I think it might go a bit tonto.

 

British compassion is destroying us. People are generally nice and their first instinct is to do the nice thing without thinking through all the various consequences.

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2 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

I blame the So-Called BBC pedalling its fake view of an England full of warm summers, chocolate box cottages and unbridled wealth in the form of the programming it exports.

Well thyve given the heads up on murders.

Or is that ITV?

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5 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

I blame the So-Called BBC pedalling its fake view of an England full of warm summers, chocolate box cottages and unbridled wealth in the form of the programming it exports.

Are you suggesting that this sort of thing didn't help?

Image result for darling buds of may

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14 minutes ago, Cunning Plan said:

Yes, they are. But they can't rent or work legally so they are propping up slumlords and gangmasters.

I don't know if, as an illegal, you can claim any benefits (I guess the NHS is accessible) or even send your kid to school.

All this needs to come out into the open. If we discover we have 1m people here who can't pay tax but can claim everything then I think it might go a bit tonto.

What's the checking system like to see if you're entitled to benefits. How many NI numbers have they given out and how do they check who they're giving them out to.

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I imagine they think they will get more tax out of this (sort of like the USA when it legalised porn in the 70s) and they won't have to pay so  much for customs, immigration etc to pursue people who are never going to be deported even if they are found. 

Of course, it will all backfire because the people will claim more in benefits than they pay in tax, and eventually they will extend the 'amnesty' to anyone who's been in the country ten days let alone ten years. 

But we've reached the point now where it doesn't matter anymore because the system is going to collapse anyway, so it might as well happen sooner rather than later. 

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2 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

What's the checking system like to see if you're entitled to benefits. How many NI numbers have they given out and how do they check who they're giving them out to.

Illegal immigrants can have valid NI numbers and work for large organistions (tens of thousands of employees) that have deicated HR departments and they are still not detected as being illegal and so access every benefit going; fact.

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2 minutes ago, satch said:

Illegal immigrants can have valid NI numbers and work for large organistions (tens of thousands of employees) that have deicated HR departments and they are still not detected as being illegal and so access every benefit going; fact.

This is what I believe. I believe there are loads and loads under the radar and then loads who are blatantly here without permission and for all the checks and balances we are supposed to have, nothing is done about it.

 

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6 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

This is what I believe. I believe there are loads and loads under the radar and then loads who are blatantly here without permission and for all the checks and balances we are supposed to have, nothing is done about it.

 

Yep. Inadequate systems, poorly administrated with crap IT and too easily subverted. More than anything else, this is what has brought ruin on the UK. I reckon there are many millions of illegals, not a million.

Gattaca-style id systems are the only way out of the shit now, with all the fears of big brother attached to that.

 

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1 hour ago, Cunning Plan said:

Now this is going to be fun.

Boris proposing an amnesty for anyone that arrived over 10 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4967690/Million-illegal-immigrants-not-removed-UK.html

That figure could be over 1m people.

We can look at this in three ways.

1. Boris is an idiot and this won't happen. But it will throw the spotlight on just how many are here already, how many arrive every year (estimated up to 250k), what part of the system they are using and how big the black economy is.

2. Boris and the snowflake class get their way. Can you imagine the effect of suddenly allowing 1m people access to the UK system. We are being told that the advantage is that they will now start paying tax. Not being mentioned that they will now be able to claim benefits (I can't believe there are 1m engineers and doctors living here illegally), apply for jobs and rent rooms.

Can you imagine what will happen to schools, flat rentals, the NHS and the welfare system if you inject 1m people into it overnight. I think even the most pro-immigration person would notice.

3. Or is Boris playing a brexit blinder and getting everyone to really assess what continued immigration will do to the country?

FWIW, I think option 2 is the most likely. And then the rise of the far right is almost inevitable when people see what liblabcon has allowed to happen over the last twenty years.

I would imagine this could take a general election so is about 5 years off before becoming law, which means anyone who has currently been here 5 years illegally will qualify, this will also act as a rallying cry to attract more illegals to the UK.

Edited by snagger

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Just now, snagger said:

I would imagine this could take a general election so is about 5 years off before becoming law, which means anyone who has currently been here 5 years illegally will qualify, this will also be a rallying cry to attract more illegals to the UK.

Won't it.

I took a while but I have woken up to what a collossal opportunist twat is Boris the Buffoon.

I laughed when Angela Eagle reacted like this because at the time he had been a (pretend) cheerleader for Brexit; I now feel the same.

 

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I don’t want to say it, but I told you all so.  I knew this was the endgame in the windrush meme being pushed by the MSM.  Once you realise how they operate, the rest game they play and the way they operate becomes clear.  

 

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9 minutes ago, One percent said:

I don’t want to say it, but I told you all so.  I knew this was the endgame in the windrush meme being pushed by the MSM.  Once you realise how they operate, the rest game they play and the way they operate becomes clear.  

 

Free citizenship is being given to the 'Windrush' generation - basically anyone who came here between 1948 and 1988.

 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/free-citizenship-for-the-windrush-generation

It is clear that no mainstream party has any interest in reducing immigration; IMO they all want open borders either for ideological reasons (Koudenhove-Khalergi Plan) or because, as with universal benefits, they think it will cost them less than it will to control them. 

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