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The Masked Tulip

Car drives into people in Newport, South Wales - two women life-changing injuries, others in hospital

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The Daily Mail is just reporting this - it is being described as a hit and run. Odd, how certain such incidents get reported in the UK. The Birmingham mosque one was immediatly flagged up as being possibly terror-related. This one is called a hit-and-run.

The Police are searching for the driver, described as black, who appears to have driven in a large group of white people. Imagine if it was the other way around.

Hit-and-run driver is caught on video repeatedly ploughing into crowd of pedestrians to leave two women with life-changing injuries and two others in hospital before he torched his car and fled

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Everyone with a minor grudge and a car now realises that they are tooled up.

Add some drugs into the mix and you have carnage.

That south east night club one ?last month was because they had been refused entry.

So what do the authorities do if cars are now weapons?

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2 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Everyone with a minor grudge and a car now realises that they are tooled up.

Add some drugs into the mix and you have carnage.

That south east night club one ?last month was because they had been refused entry.

So what do the authorities do if cars are now weapons?

 

Considering those who control our lives via twitter and facebook - you know, those socialist SJW's earning hundreds of thousands of pounds per year writing for the Guardian, appearing on the So-Called BBC, Sky News, etc - all seem to live in London and are able to use the excellent London transport system... and expensive taxis... so it would not surprise me if, any moment now, some of them begin demanding the confiscation of all cars.

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4 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

Considering those who control our lives via twitter and facebook - you know, those socialist SJW's earning hundreds of thousands of pounds per year writing for the Guardian, appearing on the So-Called BBC, Sky News, etc - all seem to live in London and are able to use the excellent London transport system... and expensive taxis... so it would not surprise me if, any moment now, some of them begin demanding the confiscation of all cars.

Or time restriction on their use, tracking, remote shutdown, police ability to deny somebody a licence without their having committed a motoring offence.

I noted on another thread on how I thought very differently about cars when I lived in central London and walked or tubed everywhere.  I thought people didn't need them, were selfish for having them with their pollution and waste of the wrold's resources, and that they should be heavily taxed for the privilege.  Move out of London to soemwhere rural and my views take a 180 degree shift as I suddenly realise that outside of the central London bubble cars are, for most people, essential.

But a lot of people making the laws live in that same central London bubble.

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14 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Everyone with a minor grudge and a car now realises that they are tooled up.

Add some drugs into the mix and you have carnage.

That south east night club one ?last month was because they had been refused entry.

So what do the authorities do if cars are now weapons?

It does seem this way now doesnt it?

How many late night clubbing car rammings have there been in the last 12 months literally about 30 or so, inremember them keep popping up on the news with "not terror related" tagged on the end.

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2 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

It does seem this way now doesnt it?

How many late night clubbing car rammings have there been in the last 12 months literally about 30 or so, inremember them keep popping up on the news with "not terror related" tagged on the end.

Thirty?  Wow, I thought it was a handful.

I can definitely see some legislation coming in in that case.

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4 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

So what do the authorities do if cars are now weapons?

Treat private cars as guns.

Licence selected groups for limited ownership ie one car per family maximum.

Needs to be special reason for ownership ie farmer, doctor, occupation eg Uber, Deliveroo.

Owner needs to keep vehicle locked away safely at all times with no unauthorised access by Under 30s.

Fuel purchase restricted based on proof of approved journey, with GPS monitoring to confirm. Exceeding authorised mileage or travelling outside pre-planned route punishable by heavy fines and/or confiscation of vehicle.

Confiscated vehicles reassigned to community use by government and local council.

Licence data chip to be housed within arm or wrist to prevent sharing.

All non-essential travel prohibited.

Ultimately private car ownership to be abolished.

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A vehicle approached, it tried to get through, then squeezed through the two vehicles and ended up hitting … people were stood here, this is a very busy road on a Saturday evening and basically this road here is a road that is closed during the day but for some strange reason it’s open during the evening when it should be closed. It’s absolutely crazy.

Initially it would have just been a person trying to get through … but what happened is he actually hit a person and then it turned into almost like a mob who went after the vehicle and the driver of the vehicle.

This then situation got quite bad where people were basically attacking the vehicle because the vehicle had actually hit someone.

Then the unbelievable happened, where the driver actually went across onto the pavement and hit two girls, two innocent girls, who were just sat there at the end of the night … and hit them, not only once, but actually reversed back, and I don’t know whether it was intentional or not, but actually went and hit the person a second time.

It was horrific. It’s something that you don’t want to see on any street.

 

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3 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Thirty?  Wow, I thought it was a handful.

I can definitely see some legislation coming in in that case.

In the short term we'll probably see the total pedestrianisation of city centres, with vehicular access strictly controlled via barriers/bollards etc.

Once self driving cars are an actual working thing in widespread use, then I'd expect to see a "nanny" mode mandated in all vehicles that will take over the car and notify the authorities at the first sign of the driver trying to do anything remotely dangerous.

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8 minutes ago, SpectrumFX said:

Once self driving cars are an actual working thing in widespread use, then I'd expect to see a "nanny" mode mandated in all vehicles that will take over the car and notify the authorities at the first sign of the driver trying to do anything remotely dangerous.

AI will 'learn' certain groups are a potential hazard and once identified immediately prevent access to the vehicle on safety grounds.

Women will stranded.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

AI will 'learn' certain groups are a potential hazard and once identified immediately prevent access to the vehicle on safety grounds.

Women will stranded.

 

 

 

The way the UK is going it can only be a few decades before women are banned rom driving anyway.

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1 minute ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

The way the UK is going it can only be a few decades before women are banned rom driving anyway.

A soft first step would be increase in the minimum driving age; there are lots of statistics that would back up doing this as the insurance premiums demonstrate.

So at the moment you can pass your test and drive on your 17th birthday.  Now that's a limit that was set at a time when people left schcol at 16 (or was it even earlier - I'm not sure how "January leavers" used to work) whereas now you don't get to leave some kind of education until 18.

So without much fuss you can raise it to 18 or even 19.

It's been suggested to go that way, I don't know how much of this has yet happened:

 

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Teenagers could have to wait a year longer than currently before they are allowed to take their driving test.

The government is considering issuing only 12-month probationary licences at the age of 18 in a bid to cut accidents involving young motorists.

New drivers would also face a curfew between 22:00 and 05:00 unless a passenger aged over 30 was in the car.

Ministers are due to publish a Green Paper this year after considering the Transport Research Laboratory's report.

It recommends a one-year "learner stage" beginning at 17, during which drivers would have to total at least 100 hours of daytime and 20 hours of night-time practice under supervision.

Learners can then take their test at 18 and, if they pass, will get a probationary licence and have to display a green "P" plate.

During this stage, drivers will face the curfew and all those under 30 will be banned from carrying any passengers also under 30.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24485792

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14 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

i doubt the black man in the ford C max in newport last night was an 18 yr old novice driver 

 

Step 1 - up the age

Step 2 - demand an acceptable and evidenced reason for having a car - job, caring responsibilities, disabled - and have this annually verified

 

Look at the blue badge legislation.  Just extend that sort of concept where it is a concession to be able to park on yellow lines to it being a concession to allow private car ownership.

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8 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Step 1 - up the age

Step 2 - demand an acceptable and evidenced reason for having a car - job, caring responsibilities, disabled - and have this annually verified

 

Look at the blue badge legislation.  Just extend that sort of concept where it is a concession to be able to park on yellow lines to it being a concession to allow private car ownership.

And yet again the innocent are disadvantaged. 

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7 minutes ago, One percent said:

And yet again the innocent are disadvantaged. 

Well why do you need a car?

That's not me asking but you can how the authorities can turn it round so that it becomes suspicious that you want to have a car with "no good reason".

As I've mentioned on another thread I'd like to collect old army pistols and rifles because I used to collect militaria but my schoolboy budget restricted that to badges and buttons.  I'd also like to fire them because they're machines and you want to make them work.  Feel the weight, feel the kick, smell the cordite  You don't buy a car and just look at it.

But through various loonies running wild with guns over the years and blanket legislation coming in as a response I have accepted that short of emigrating to a less legislated country I can never have that collection and even had I jumped through the various loops in buying deactivated versions, which come a very poor second, it would probably only be a matter of time before those became illegal and my collection became worthless and had to be handed in.  So I have never had a gun.

And all through the apparently perfectly reasonable question:

Well why do you need a gun?

 

The killer word in both questions is "need".  I don't need a gun.  I also don't strictly need a car.  I could move onto a bus route to my office, have my groceries home dleivered, take taxis.

But I want a car.  And I want a gun.

For the moment I am at least still allowed a car just because I want one.

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17 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

An 18-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of causing injury by dangerous driving.

Stole his parents car then and went back to "have the row" with someone at the nightclub? probably a burd involved.

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16 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Well why do you need a car?

That's not me asking but you can how the authorities can turn it round so that it becomes suspicious that you want to have a car with "no good reason".

As I've mentioned on another thread I'd like to collect old army pistols and rifles because I used to collect militaria but my schoolboy budget restricted that to badges and buttons.  I'd also like to fire them because they're machines and you want to make them work.  Feel the weight, feel the kick, smell the cordite  You don't buy a car and just look at it.

But through various loonies running wild with guns over the years and blanket legislation coming in as a response I have accepted that short of emigrating to a less legislated country I can never have that collection and even had I jumped through the various loops in buying deactivated versions, which come a very poor second, it would probably only be a matter of time before those became illegal and my collection became worthless and had to be handed in.  So I have never had a gun.

And all through the apparently perfectly reasonable question:

Well why do you need a gun?

 

The killer word in both questions is "need".  I don't need a gun.  I also don't strictly need a car.  I could move onto a bus route to my office, have my groceries home dleivered, take taxis.

But I want a car.  And I want a gun.

For the moment I am at least still allowed a car just because I want one.

I hope GCHQ miss this thread. 😳

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