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spygirl

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They were just stupid juveniles egging each other on in stupid offensive one-upmanship attempts at puerile humour.  I'd say they absolutely shouldn't be expelled, but should have a bit of a lesson in growing up. 

But this sort of thing is terrible when it comes to actually having a grown-up conversation about, well, anything remotely contentious.

We do need to have conversations about difficult subjects, and one of them is how we treat racial issues.  This story just promulgates the 'mentioning race is always and everywhere a bad thing'.  But it is much more complex and nuanced than that.

Take, for example, the current mess about immigration and Windrush.  The vast majority of those affected are black -- therefore it is a racist policy.  But, pretty much by definition, any story about immigration is going to involve a high %age of different races -- just playing the racist card is unhelpful.

I hate racism.  I don't understand why people can be so offensive.  There is no reason why a person shouldn't have the same opportunities no matter their race/creed/religion.  But this doesn't mean that we can't make strong decisions about immigration, that we can't encourage integration, that we have to ignore intolerance when it is the minorities being intolerant.

[BTW, this sort of juvenile 'ism' is everywhere.  All communities/sexes/religions will have stupid offensive jokes at the expense of the 'other'.  It absolutely isn't a 'white' phenomenon.  But, there is a mindset currently where some sectors of society have different rules than others -- these guys were guilty of being in the wrong group.]

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36 minutes ago, Hopeful said:

Yep, cunt

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Completely fucked himself getting a decent job now, any employers is going to be one quick google away from his past "oh so you you'll happily throw your co-workers and mates under a bus if you don't like their mean words not even directed at you? Fuck off son". the So-Called BBC will still hire him though. What a cunt.

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8 minutes ago, gibbon said:

Completely fucked himself getting a decent job now, any employers is going to be one quick google away from his past "oh so you you'll happily throw your co-workers and mates under a bus if you don't like their mean words not even directed at you? Fuck off son". the So-Called BBC will still hire him though. What a cunt.

Yep, my immediate thought.  No one in their right mind would trust him....

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3 hours ago, spygirl said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43987148

Both Arsalan and the Uni.

'"I've always been a massive advocate of freedom of speech [but] there is also an integrity you need to have as someone who wants to practise in the legal field. '

Oh my sides split on that.

 

Agreed. I'd include the people he exposed, so pretty much a cuntfest allround, but not the sort you want.

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His comment about what would happen his kid was being interviewed by one of these people in the future shows just how much of a dumb fuck this guy is.

1) People change you stupid fuck. St Paul for example went from persecuting Christians to being the first Pope, for Christ's sake.

2) You are wanting to practise law and may end up in the criminal justice system. Pity the poor sod who gets defended by you. "Well m'Lord, my client is a nasty piece of work, he'll never change, even if he didn"t do it he's probably done lots of bad things, lock him up and throw away the key".

3) You can't legislate against people's beliefs you fucking moron.

This guy is a collossal cunt and an utter fucking moron.

I echo the comments made about any potential employer dropping his CV straight in the bin. The guy is untrustworthy and people wouldn't work with him. He's toxic.

 

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15 hours ago, the gardener said:

His comment about what would happen his kid was being interviewed by one of these people in the future shows just how much of a dumb fuck this guy is.

1) People change you stupid fuck. St Paul for example went from persecuting Christians to being the first Pope, for Christ's sake.

30 years ago casual racist banter of the sort show here was commonplace, there was certainly plenty in my peer group. It generally wasn't born out of actual racism (i.e. a genuine belief that other races were inferior) though, it was just a random subject that lads could easily use to try to out do each other being offensive and funny, ditto for sexism. None of us were or have become evil,  back in the day I probably said some things just as offensive but either then or now I've never actually treated any of the hundreds of non-white people I've studied with, worked with, socialised with (and in some cases shagged ...)  in any remotely discriminatory way.

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