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sarahbell

Open consultation The future for food, farming and the environment

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Just now, wherebee said:

1: half the target population of the UK by 2060

2: ban addition of sugar and corn syrup to all food

3: ban halal and kosher animal killing practices.

 

jobs a good un

You looking to get on a watch list (if you are not already for posting on here) :ph34r:

ps everyone, I’ve found the dosbods emoticons. They are right at the end of the drop down box. Happy. :Jumping:

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Stop subbing UK farmers.

Withdraw all subsidy.

Move all tax breaks to the same as every other business.

Open uo agri import to Africa - - let those poor fuckers develop teir economies/throw their cheap Labour at agri. No more importing 'cheap' EE labour then giving them a 2k+ benefit sub.

 

Dont piss around with this farce 'environment payments' 'Oh, the landscape is down to the farmers' I cannot put a nuclear power station in m,y backyard, neither can a farmer.

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4. Actually bother to regulate pesticides so that farmers don't just drench their crops in it and kill the bees/birds/wildlife.

5. Make it illegal to employ 100% Eastern Europeans

6. Make crop picking / agriculture be included in community service.

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I still remember a little factoid from a summer job working in a pesticide residue analysis lab at the MAFF back in the mid 80s before starting my PhD:

Basically, you cant wash the pesticides off. Once they're on, they're effectively on for good. And then you eat them. :(

Its the one watertight argument in favour of organic food IMO.

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2 minutes ago, Melchett said:

I still remember a little factoid from a summer job working in a pesticide residue analysis lab at the MAFF back in the mid 80s before starting my PhD:

Basically, you cant wash the pesticides off. Once they're on, they're effectively on for good. And then you eat them. :(

Its the one watertight argument in favour of organic food IMO.

The main concern for me is that the chem companies lie so brazenly. About 90% of the grains we eat in the UK contain trace amounts of glyphosate. It's going to be one of those things they look back in decades to come think, how they hell did they not realise.

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I tried filling that fecker in. It has page after page of prescriptive 'chose/prioritise from' questions, and no opportunity as yet to give free form opinions as stated here. It seems designed to bore anyone who is not going to give The Right Answers away. Does it get better? Is there anywhere later I could put in stuff about banning religious slaughter, banning ddition of corn syrup etc, or am I wasting my time?

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Did anyone try this? 
I've got to the first drop down number selection questions and I can do the first three (providing I give them different numbers) but nothing else...

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3 minutes ago, Melchett said:

I gave up. Its fecking awful. Designed to avoid gaining any input from the plebs, I think. Feckers.

I quite often do those sent out from the bus drivers son’s office. They are designed in such a way to get the answers they want. Very biased in the way they are worded. I still manage to shoehorn a dosbodian view into them. :)

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Treat any farmer after a sub as waynetaa brown baby.

Let tge fucker queue up at tge dss for an interview. Get him to explain what hes doing to make a profit.

Bunch of useless land hording dossers.

 

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On 04/05/2018 at 05:44, spygirl said:

Stop subbing UK farmers.

Withdraw all subsidy.

Move all tax breaks to the same as every other business.

Open uo agri import to Africa - - let those poor fuckers develop teir economies/throw their cheap Labour at agri. No more importing 'cheap' EE labour then giving them a 2k+ benefit sub. 

 

Dont piss around with this farce 'environment payments' 'Oh, the landscape is down to the farmers' I cannot put a nuclear power station in m,y backyard, neither can a farmer.

I'd like subsidies to be withdrawn, but I don't mind a bit of price support in the form of WHO tarrifs.  I'd also like to see agricultural vehicles taxed to more fully reflect the damage they do to the roads, along with an end to the all the special treatment farmers get from the planning system. I'd also abolish IHT to stop land being used for IHT planning purposes.

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Saw nothing much in there other than subsidy shifting from old EU subsidies to new "green" ones.

Small scale farming, market gardens, highly specialised / intensive small local producers, greenhouses, speciality mushroom farms, lots of stuff being done in the states along those lines and profitable too, in all climates that are very much more extreme than here.

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On 04/05/2018 at 11:57, spunko2010 said:

4. Actually bother to regulate pesticides so that farmers don't just drench their crops in it and kill the bees/birds/wildlife.

5. Make it illegal to employ 100% Eastern Europeans

6. Make crop picking / agriculture be included in community service.

6. (cont) The community service to measured in weight of produce picked, rather than hours.

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