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Scumbag College, Oxford

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Read this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44053249

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"If existing colleges are reluctant to increase their undergraduate entry, then it is time to consider founding a number of entirely new Oxbridge colleges to boost the number of students from under-represented groups at our oldest, richest and most prestigious universities," said Mr Hillman.

and immediately thought of this:

[not as funny as it used to be -- but hell, it's Scumbag College!]

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the University of Bristol's intake has grown by 22%, University College London by 36%, Queen Mary University of London by 46% and University of Surrey by 57%.

 

So...

What these self-elected "experts" are saying is that because some previously respected institutions have diluted and devalued the quality of their qualifications then the two universities who haven't ruined their reputations should do the same because: it's just not fair!

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3 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

the University of Bristol's intake has grown by 22%, University College London by 36%, Queen Mary University of London by 46% and University of Surrey by 57%.

 

So...

What these self-elected "experts" are saying is that because some previously respected institutions have diluted and devalued the quality of their qualifications then the two universities who haven't ruined their reputations should do the same because: it's just not fair!

Ex of mine went to UCL and got on to a highly competitive degree course. She got awful GCSE grades and dropped out of her A-levels after 3 months. Quite the ratbag but she was able to play the victim card long before it was in vogue as is now. She was/is thick as cows shit. Think they let her on via some foundation course. When people tell me UCL is a good uni I just laugh. It's all about the £££. Still all just anecdotal.

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5 minutes ago, davidg said:

They could introduce the French system for university selection, it uses a lottery scheme.

God no, then the Eton graduates doing PPE at Oxford may come across some of the great unwashed.  It will never do

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4 minutes ago, davidg said:

They could introduce the French system for university selection, it uses a lottery scheme.

:D yes much fairer! 

When did that happen? From memory years ago they used to let in nearly everyone, to the point of having lecture theatres overflowing and impossible to see a tutor unless you were a really sexy girl or boy, then they threw a huge percentage out after a year and got on with the real course. Obviously that was too unfair on the thickies!

 

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6 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

The 'rubbing faces in diversity' crowd have been after Oxbridge for a long time. To the credit of those institutions, they seem to have held out reasonably well against dumbing down. 

It would be nice if dumbing down was the only thing they were resisting. Given that Gideon went to Oxford and Cathy Newman has a first class degree in English from Oxford which would normally necessitate a capacity to make coherent arguments,  I don’t think their system is working as well as they would like to project. 

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3 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

:D yes much fairer! 

When did that happen? From memory years ago they used to let in nearly everyone, to the point of having lecture theatres overflowing and impossible to see a tutor unless you were a really sexy girl or boy, then they threw a huge percentage out after a year and got on with the real course. Obviously that was too unfair on the thickies!

 

They still do that more or less but rather than excluding the 5-10% of the knuckle draggers on "in demand" subjects they use a lottery system to select. It really came to a head last year when loads of the brightest and best were excluded.

More info in Libe'

http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2014/07/15/selection-il-y-a-du-tirage-a-l-universite_1064473

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9 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

It would be nice if dumbing down was the only thing they were resisting. Given that Gideon went to Oxford and Cathy Newman has a first class degree in English from Oxford which would normally necessitate a capacity to make coherent arguments,  I don’t think their system is working as well as they would like to project. 

Well, SJW/Cultural marxists have infested every aspect of British society and Oxbridge is no exception - hence producing people like Mrs Newman - but compared to other universities they do at least seem to have a slightly higher standard and also maintain some good cultural traditions such as a high standard of chapel choirs, debating societies etc. 

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4 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

Well, SJW/Cultural marxists have infested every aspect of British society and Oxbridge is no exception - hence producing people like Mrs Newman - but compared to other universities they do at least seem to have a slightly higher standard and also maintain some good cultural traditions such as a high standard of chapel choirs, debating societies etc. 

no point in bothering with debating societies when free speech is dead.  Also, once Christianity has been wiped from the face of the earth, those choirs will be banned.  

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17 minutes ago, One percent said:

no point in bothering with debating societies when free speech is dead.  Also, once Christianity has been wiped from the face of the earth, those choirs will be banned.  

My point is though that those institutions still exist in Oxbridge, whereas they have gone from many other universities, or were never there in the first place. The Oxford Union has, I believe, had speakers like Tommy Robinson, so hopefully some concept of free speech still exists there. 

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29 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

 but compared to other universities they do at least seem to have a slightly higher standard and also maintain some good cultural traditions

"Stuffy old" Oxbridge fellows and dons make an art form out of resisting change...they preserve buildings and traditions that are centuries old, and sexism, and snobbery of cheap values and a dislike new money, they maintain an exclusive dress code for meals and ceremonies, speak an odd language, still prefer public school undergrads, and drink, and smoke in prolific quantities. Porterhouse Blue was a fly-on-the wall documentary. Yet, Cambridge, in particular, still maintains itself in the world's top ten research institutions. Surely, they should be derelict with bad behaviours like that?  But we are seeing a pattern here, like in Japan, those that resist change, and value nostalgia, and maintain a monoculture thrive.

Edited by Everentt

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