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1 hour ago, One percent said:

My money is on very thick

I'd agree but who on earth thinks that footballers are role models anyway?

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1 minute ago, sukuinage said:

I'd agree but who on earth thinks that footballers are role models anyway?

I thnk this needs actively managing until their wages are NMW.

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4 minutes ago, sukuinage said:

I'd agree but who on earth thinks that footballers are role models anyway?

Who doesn't look up to Nile Ranger?  Anyone with a whole separate section in their wiki headed "Legal History" is clearly a person of ambition and energy:
 

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In 2007, at the age of 15, he was sentenced to 11 weeks in a Young Offenders Institute after being convicted of participating in street robbery in Muswell Hill, London.

In May 2011 Ranger was questioned by Newcastle after posing with a replica gun in a photograph.[44]

On 27 August 2011 he was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a man in Newcastle city centre, leaving the victim unconscious in the street. Ranger was subsequently dropped to Newcastle United's reserve team. He was found not guilty of the charge in October 2012.[45]

In October 2011 he was charged with being drunk and disorderly in Newcastle's Cathedral Square. The charge came only days after Ranger had been reinstated to Newcastle United's first-team training after a three-month exile in the club's reserves.[46]

In March 2012, he was fined by The FA for making homophobic comments on social networking website Twitter.[47]

In the early hours of 23 September 2012, police were called to a house in Enfield, north London after reports of a disturbance. The front door of the property was badly damaged and Ranger was arrested at the scene and later charged with criminal damage.[48] The charge against Ranger was dropped that November after the court accepted his explanation that he had damaged the door after fearing his girlfriend was being kidnapped.[49]

On 25 January 2013, Ranger was arrested on suspicion of rape in a Newcastle hotel room.[50] In connection with the same alleged offence, Ranger was charged with rape on 8 July 2013.[51] On 4 March 2014 he was cleared of the charge at Newcastle Crown Court.[52]

On 14 March 2013, Ranger was charged with common assault after an incident in Newcastle city centre.[53]

On 23 March 2014, Ranger was arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage to a taxi in Liverpool.[54] He later pleaded guilty to criminal damage and was fined £1,000 and was ordered to pay compensation to the taxi driver for breaking a window. Ranger said that he was enraged by being called a rapist by the driver.[55]

On 28 April 2014 Ranger was charged with criminal damage after an incident at a block of flats in Swindon on 13 April.[56] He was later fined for damage to the door of his flat in relation to this incident which was captured on CCTV, in an incident where he additionally appeared to strike his female companion three times on the face.[57]

In May 2014, Ranger was found not guilty of being drunk in charge of his vehicle, after being found asleep in the driver's seat of his car on the M4 motorway.[58]

In December 2016, Ranger was charged with conspiracy to defraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering, in respect of offences alleged to have been committed in February 2015.[59] In January 2017, he pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud at Wood Green Crown Court.[60] On 23 May 2017, he was sentenced to eight months in prison.[8] On 11 August 2017, he was released after 10 weeks of his sentence due to "his consistently excellent custodial behaviour", remaining under curfew for the next five weeks.[61]

 

Nile in various reflective moods:

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26 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Who doesn't look up to Nile Ranger?  Anyone with a whole separate section in their wiki headed "Legal History" is clearly a person of ambition and energy:
 

Nile in various reflective moods:

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nile-ranger-lip-tattoo-newcastle-united-

 

why the fuck (excuse my French - I'm feeling belligerent this weekend) do they keep employing him as a top flight footballer.  There must be hundreds out there as good

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1 minute ago, One percent said:

why the fuck (excuse my French - I'm feeling belligerent this weekend) do they keep employing him as a top flight footballer.  There must be hundreds out there as good

They're in De-Nile

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4 minutes ago, One percent said:

why the fuck (excuse my French - I'm feeling belligerent this weekend) do they keep employing him as a top flight footballer.  There must be hundreds out there as good

 

Most clubs will not touch him on principle.

So for an unprincipled club who is prepared to sign him, such as Swindon under Chairman Lee Power, he represents a cut price player.  A very good championship player for league 1 wages.

I don't like that some clubs stoop to this and consequently found it hilarious that it came back to bite Swindon.

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These people are paid vast sums of money.  It seems bonkers to me that they're not given a 'minder' (carer) as a condition of contract, who'll check that they don't do anything that'll embarrass them or the team. 

IMO a normal 20ish year old guy has every excuse for being a knob -- these players have absolutely no excuse.

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2 minutes ago, dgul said:

These people are paid vast sums of money.  It seems bonkers to me that they're not given a 'minder' (carer) as a condition of contract, who'll check that they don't do anything that'll embarrass them or the team. 

IMO a normal 20ish year old guy has every excuse for being a knob -- these players have absolutely no excuse.

It seems to be the cost.  Clubs will pay a fortune in transfer fees and player wages but are very niggardly about other costs.  The post of Financial Controller was advertised at my club and it was I would say £20k down on what I would have expected so didn't apply.

Apologies for the Guardian link but this quite a good read; Stephen Caulker who scored on his England debut and has now been released by QPR after all manner of problems with him:
 

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“There was no understanding as to what was happening in my head. I know they’d brought me in to do a job and they weren’t there to be babysitters. Just like at QPR, I needed to justify the money they were paying me but I was in a state and, at some point, there has to be a duty of care.

Tottenham sent me to Bristol City on loan at 18 and they put me in a flat in the city centre surrounded by nightclubs, two casinos opposite, the kind of money I’d never seen in my life, and no guidance whatsoever.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/29/steven-caulker-mental-illness-addictions-gambling-drinking-qpr

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36 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

It seems to be the cost.  Clubs will pay a fortune in transfer fees and player wages but are very niggardly about other costs.  The post of Financial Controller was advertised at my club and it was I would say £20k down on what I would have expected so didn't apply.

It should be paid by the player, not the club.

Frankly, I don't know why they don't do this voluntarily.  IMO a large part of the 'success' of David Beckham is that he was willing to take on a team of image consultants and do absolutely whatever they said -- as a result he's far more wealthy than if he'd just carried on being a mong like his contemporaries.

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2 minutes ago, dgul said:

It should be paid by the player, not the club.

Frankly, I don't know why they don't do this voluntarily.  IMO a large part of the 'success' of David Beckham is that he was willing to take on a team of image consultants and do absolutely whatever they said -- as a result he's far more wealthy than if he'd just carried on being a mong like his contemporaries.

Yes it should, but given the absolutely bizarre way that agents' fees work in football (agent works for the footballer, but the buying football club pays his fees - £40m in the case of Pogba IIRC) normal rules do not apply.

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