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Turned Out Nice Again

Emperor's clothes in reverse - stuff everybody knows is shit, but actually isn't.

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I give you the Dell Inspiron 5378 2-in-1 ultrabook. I've been in the market for a while for a backup work/ travel machine to my Dell e7470 i7, 16GB, QHD touchscrenn work PC and spotted a lightly-used (7th-gen) i7, 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD 5378 for the attractive price of £495 shipped which seemed to tick all the boxes with bonus of pulling the Surface Pro trick of converting into a WIndows 10 tablet.

The reviews though - both professional and user - are strangely mixed, eg. 24% 1-star on Amazon. It's apparently got a lousy screen, a noisy fan. the touchscreen and trackpad are rubbish and it overheats. Battery life is also lamentable. All of which  was surprising to me as a long-standing fan of Dell laptops.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-Inspiron-13-3-Inch-Convertible-Notebook/product-reviews/B01N0XRHF3/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar

Bought it anyway and it's great. People are nuts. This guy agrees:

PS. Add to the list my 15 yo Fiat Multipla, which just aced its latest MOT with zero issues.

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I see what you're getting at. Agree on Dells, use them for work never had a problem. Light, quiet, robust.

I'd add Microsoft to that. Office 365 is pretty incredible these days. 

Ford cars - the Mondeo is pretty much best in class. As is the focus.

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I'm always surprised, when I happen to catch a new episode of The Simpsons, at just how good it still is. Even though it's tempting to think that it finished twenty years ago.

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Second vote for the Simpsons.

Places given a bad name, usually for snobbish reasons and often without direct experience.

For example I have heard Weymouth described as rough, chavvy etc. but I have always really liked it, never found it at all rough, and regularly go there.

This is the sort of mentality that has people paying through the nose to stay at Rock / Polzeath when there are dozens of equivalent or better resorts around the coast of Devon and Cornwall where you can stay for half the price and enjoy it far more.

1 minute ago, Cunning Plan said:

Ian Duncan Smith.

Very good call.

Not the brightest but his heart is in the right place and he is a proper conviction politician.

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Another one: cheap Chinese tools. OK, not the cheapest Chinese tools and definitely not for trade use. But for mid-range DIY then B&Q or Screwfix own brand (i.e. cheap and Chinese) are bloody good value.

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53 minutes ago, gibbon said:

The glossy screen on that laptop would piss me off

 

52 minutes ago, Hopeful said:

Can't understand glossy screens

It's a touchscreen so has to be glossy/ glassy.

Add Microsoft Vista to the list - basically indistinguishable from 7 in its later iterations, yet universally condemned as shit; similarly 8 vs 10.

Lidl/ Aldi vs. Waitrose, M&S?

Every product/ service/ place etc. has its plusses/ minuses and required compromises. What's important in reviews is seeing a broader perspective, for instance cost vs benefit.

The Dell i bought isn't a Macbook or Surface but by God it matches them in most important respects (and exceeds them in others) for a fraction of the price! 

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I think the problem for many brands is that one shit version of a product can marr the reputation for a long, long time.

I have used Dell desktops and laptops at work quite often over the years. Most have been fine but there was one batch of PCs supplied to an office about a decade ago that all failed within about 12-18 months due to faulty components. In fact it became such a joke that you could almost predict to the week when machines were going to crash. That sort of experience colours a lot of people's views of a product. Worse the reputation for providing dodgy kit then becomes part of folk memory which gets trotted out again and again over the years even if it is no longer true.

That said poor experiences don't seem to stop people buying MS Windows  even though it is one of the world most irritating products to deal with both on a personal and business level. The non optional periodic massive Windows 10 updates that run for ever and screws your machine being their latest incarnation of software hell.I think there aim is to have a machine that is eternally downloading and installing updates that you can never use for anything else.

 

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17 minutes ago, Turned Out Nice Again said:

Add Microsoft Vista to the list - basically indistinguishable from 7 in its later iterations, yet universally condemned as shit; similarly 8 vs 10.

Windows 10 is great if you go to some lengths to remove the useless store app bloat they preinstall.

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2 hours ago, Roger_Mellie said:

Ford cars - the Mondeo is pretty much best in class. As is the focus.

Not sure I'd agree with that.

The mondeo is quite good,  but I't rate the Golf and A3 over the Focus any day.  The best advantage of the fords is the heated front window.

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My old 1994 Ford Escort saloon 1.8 diesel ex-plod patrol car. 150,000 miles, bought at 16 years old as a stop gap car of my dad's friend for £250.00. Slow, engine as coarse as a badger's arse, basic, the driver's door wouldn't unlock from the outside after the second week of ownership and it had a rudimentary pond in the spare wheel well. Aside from that it was a bloody good car. B| Super economical. The only money I spent on it after VED and insurance was on diesel.

6815766682_2dd1f57b4c_c.jpg1994 Ford Escort 1.8 LD diesel (ex police car) by Matt, on Flickr

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All-inclusive package holidays..

Over priced holiday at a built-for-purpose resort with Eastern European staff, a bunch of other tourists and the closest thing to local culture being a restaurant making the dubious claim of selling the “best fish and chips in Portugal!”.  

All that said,  you get on a plane..  then don’t have to do anything until  you arrive back at the airport again. Food is available all day,  beach is right there, activities are on tap if you want them..  zero stress, zero hassle, zero planning.

Sure,  it’s still crap if you’re in any way adventurous or looking for an experience.. but for a stress free bit of sand and sun with a young family. They’re amazing!

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1 hour ago, Libspero said:

All-inclusive package holidays..

Over priced holiday at a built-for-purpose resort with Eastern European staff, a bunch of other tourists and the closest thing to local culture being a restaurant making the dubious claim of selling the “best fish and chips in Portugal!”.  

All that said,  you get on a plane..  then don’t have to do anything until  you arrive back at the airport again. Food is available all day,  beach is right there, activities are on tap if you want them..  zero stress, zero hassle, zero planning.

Sure,  it’s still crap if you’re in any way adventurous or looking for an experience.. but for a stress free bit of sand and sun with a young family. They’re amazing!

Amen to that.

A couple of excursions to local spots of culture and the rest of the time relaxing. You can't beat it.

One of my simple pleasures in life is playing pool on holiday with my kids on the obligatory wonky table.

Jet2 to Maspalomas for 2 weeks for us this year. Looking forward to it already :)

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7 hours ago, Hopeful said:

Can't understand glossy screens

They look good on display in PC world, complete nightmare to use almost any office environment because of glare.

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British cars of the 1960s and early 1970s

In particular the BMC ADO16 sold as the Morris and Austin 1100

My Mum drove an Austin 1100 from the 1970s to the early 1990s and contrary to how it was depicted in Fawlty Towers it was a pretty reliable car. In fact it was a better family car than the more famous Mini which was also designed by Issigonis. Despite its diminutive appearance it was as roomy inside as the much larger Ford Cortina. There was a reason it was Britains best selling car for a number of years selling over 2 million units.

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14 minutes ago, Virgil Caine said:

British cars of the 1960s and early 1970s

In particular the BMC ADO16 sold as the Morris and Austin 1100

My Mum drove an Austin 1100 from the 1970s to the early 1990s and contrary to how it was depicted in Fawlty Towers it was a pretty reliable car. In fact it was a better family car than the more famous Mini which was also designed by Issigonis. Despite its diminutive appearance it was as roomy inside as the much larger Ford Cortina. There was a reason it was Britains best selling car for a number of years selling over 2 million units.

Yeah. I was going to suggest 1990's Fiats in a similar vein.

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8 hours ago, Roger_Mellie said:

I see what you're getting at. Agree on Dells, use them for work never had a problem. Light, quiet, robust.

I'd add Microsoft to that. Office 365 is pretty incredible these days. 

Ford cars - the Mondeo is pretty much best in class. As is the focus.

My daughter was given a twenty year old ford mondeo last year by an extended family member who could no longer drive.

It was bought from new and has been fully serviced every year and is in good condition.

She loves it. As a passenger i think it’s a comfy vehicle plus roomy.

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Hi-de-Hi style holiday camps in the UK.

If you have small kids - then outside of peak English school holidays  they are affordable, and there are plenty of other small kids there for them to befriend. Decent early evening activities and events laid on for them (panto, circus etc). Choose the location well, and there will be plenty of other things you can plan to do on wet days in the surrounding area.

 

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