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Another Shipman?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5853067/Retired-GP-expected-responsible-deaths-hundreds-elderly-patients.html

A retired GP is expected to be found responsible for the deaths of hundreds after she prescribed fatal overdoses of opiate painkillers to her elderly patients, according to a report.

Dr Jane Barton, 69, is accused of prescribing fatal doses of a painkiller as strong as heroin while she worked at Gosport War Memorial Hospital between 1988 and 2000.

The 'brusque and indifferent' doctor is said to have shortened hundreds of lives with her prescription of diamorphine, according to a forthcoming report.

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I don't know what went on here, but with the Shipman case there were pains (in the appropriate media, especially early on) to point out that his wasn't a case of 'enthusiastic end-of-life care' -- a point made more clear by his enthusiasm for getting his patients to change their wills in his favour.  

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I think there are more rogue doctors out there than has ever been reported, particularly in the past.  Treason May’s father was a close associate of Bodkin Adams however this has been airbrushed from any profile.

My slaggy mate recently had an affair with a leading surgeon and the stories she has to tell about surgeons being hooked up to IV drips so they were sober and sharp enough to operate is very telling.

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12 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Not sure what isd going on here. Going to be interesting to see how it develops.

Well the enquiry has only cost £13,000,000 and taken four years so it is will not be possible to reach any sort of conclusion and  anything that may be of interest is deemed to be 'outside the remit' of the enquiry.

Edited by satch

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2 minutes ago, satch said:

Well the enquiry has only cost £13,000,000 and taken four years so it is will not be possible to reach any sort of conclusion and  anything that may be of interest is deemed to be 'outside the remit' of the enquiry.

Seriously? They have aleady spent 4 years investigating here to the tune of 13 million? Wow - didn't know that.

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8 minutes ago, Ina said:

I think there are more rogue doctors out there than has ever been reported, particularly in the past.  Treason May’s father was a close associate of Bodkin Adams however this has been airbrushed from any profile.

My slaggy mate recently had an affair with a leading surgeon and the stories she has to tell about surgeons being hooked up to IV drips so they were sober and sharp enough to operate is very telling.

Sounds like RAF pilots and lox 

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18 minutes ago, Long time lurking said:

Sounds like RAF pilots and lox 

Yup the consensus seems to be don’t go under the knife first thing on a Monday ie first on the list if you know the doc likes a pint.  Or after a staff night out.

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3 minutes ago, One percent said:

Or even better, keep away from the medical profession completely if you want to stay healthy 

You have got no idea how correct you are.  My in laws are like a medical mafia across SW England.  Their mantra is never ever go under the knife unless you absolutely have to.  They also know the good and bad hospitals and doctors.  Father in law was a GP midway between Southampton and Bristol.  Any patient with a heart problem always went to Southampton.

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7 minutes ago, Ina said:

You have got no idea how correct you are.  My in laws are like a medical mafia across SW England.  Their mantra is never ever go under the knife unless you absolutely have to.  They also know the good and bad hospitals and doctors.  Father in law was a GP midway between Southampton and Bristol.  Any patient with a heart problem always went to Southampton.

Frightening....

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18 minutes ago, One percent said:

Frightening....

And never agree to an operation by a general surgeon.  Specialist every time.

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4 hours ago, Ina said:

You have got no idea how correct you are.  My in laws are like a medical mafia across SW England.  Their mantra is never ever go under the knife unless you absolutely have to.  They also know the good and bad hospitals and doctors.  Father in law was a GP midway between Southampton and Bristol.  Any patient with a heart problem always went to Southampton.

Medicine is the last refuge of thick middle class kids.

The carurnce in diagnosis and treatment is fucking shocking.

Sooner you can interact with a computer the better.

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On 17/06/2018 at 13:07, Ina said:

I think there are more rogue doctors out there than has ever been reported, particularly in the past.  Treason May’s father was a close associate of Bodkin Adams however this has been airbrushed from any profile.

My slaggy mate recently had an affair with a leading surgeon and the stories she has to tell about surgeons being hooked up to IV drips so they were sober and sharp enough to operate is very telling.

Many years ago I bumped into a guy I had nor seen since we had done our A levels. He had done medicine and described himself as a doctor starting to become a surgeon. He advised my drinking partner and I to never sign a consent form at night. If you were able to sign the consent for you would probably live until morning and the surgeon who would operate on you at night woudl probably be as drunk as you were.

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On 17/06/2018 at 13:07, Ina said:

My slaggy mate recently had an affair with a leading surgeon and the stories she has to tell about surgeons being hooked up to IV drips so they were sober and sharp enough to operate is very telling.

It's a stressful job so it's no surprise that some are likely to be alchies. I bet they have fully stocked wine cellars/racks after a weekly shop.

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650 plus people allegedly? That puts Shipman's 250 plus into the shade.

Didn't realise that the doctor in question is still alive. Calls for the police to get involved. Really not sure what is going on here, how this investigation came about or what the reasoning behind it is.

Edited by The Masked Tulip

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52 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

650 plus people allegedly? That puts Shipman's 250 plus into the shade.

Didn't realise that the doctor in question is still alive. Calls for the police to get involved. Really not sure what is going on here, how this investigation came about or what the reasoning behind it is.

Whats more shocking?

That some uppity bitch DR has bee knocking off OAPs - probably because it saved time/effort.

Or that she was being paid for doing it?

Or that there was limited to no oversight of this?

Or that

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5864127/Families-wait-answers-major-inquiry-hundreds-hospital-painkiller-deaths.html

O the ~600 possible cases, the medical  records for 200 cannot be found?

 

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55 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

650 plus people allegedly? That puts Shipman's 250 plus into the shade.

Didn't realise that the doctor in question is still alive. Calls for the police to get involved. Really not sure what is going on here, how this investigation came about or what the reasoning behind it is.

You would think with 500 plus people potentially murdered on NHS premises over a decade that this might merit a full Public Enquiry but it seems these are now solely reserved for people of dubious immigration status who happen to get killed in a fire which may have started accidentally.

 

 

 

Edited by Virgil Caine

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Remember, its not the highly paid DRs or GPS picking this sort of shit our.

Its computers running stats.

 

1 minute ago, Virgil Caine said:

You would think with 500 plus people potentially murdered on NHS premises over a decade that this might merit a fullPublic Enquiry but it seems these are now solely reserved for people of dubious immigration status who happen to get killed in a fire. 

Hold on ,,, with those sort of numbers surely theres a black person?

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1 minute ago, One percent said:

I’m confused as to why this person is being charged.  The reaction to this is completely different from that of the shipman case

Its different for girls (in the public sector).

If shed been a muzzer too then shed have been suing the Police ...

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+1 for staying the fuck away from doctors.

I know a young doctor in the US. He's a couple of years younger than me; early 30's.

He aggressively takes the piss out of those who claim to have cured chronic disease through diet and other lifestyle interventions, because it's not 'science based'. Particularly those who have reversed heart disease, or cured autoimmune diseases/arthritis; that kinda thing. I know that if a patient came to him asking about a really clean diet, he'd actually put them off trying that and just whack them on meds.

Basically his attitude is that you should just eat all the shite that most people eat in their diet, cause it's not gonna make any big difference anyway. 'Extreme' diets are a waste of time.

However, this blokes health is in fucking tatters. He's gotten fat (he used to be a naturally skinny person like me), takes no exercise, by his own admission eats a load of junk food, seems to be sick all the time, and is on a cocktail of medications. It's odd how someone with all that medical training ends up significantly less healthy than most people his age, yet at the same time is arrogant enough to feel qualified to dismiss non-pharmaceutical interventions just because there wasn't a double blind control trial.

Also anecdotally most doctors I've met over the years didn't seem to be in better health than the average person. They're certainly not the people to go to for advice if you are striving for health.

Edited by JoeDavola

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