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White deaths exceed white births in the majority of US states, study finds

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A more telling analysis would be the level of births to net taxpayers versus the level of births to net benefits recipients.

I think we'll find that net taxpayers are diminishing at a rate of knots.

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How far we are off from getting the same headline here? I had a look at census change and it shows us growing at 1.7% in the decade to 2011 but this will include EU newcomers.

2 minutes ago, stokiescum said:

ive got at least 10 friends in the states on facebook,the rows between the left and right make our bretex debates look tame

If I was in the US I would be hanging on to my guns and ammo. It's early days right now but the way people are talking about each other sounds like the country isn't going to heal anytime soon.

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4 minutes ago, ThePiltdownMan said:

How far we are off from getting the same headline here? I had a look at census change and it shows us growing at 1.7% in the decade to 2011 but this will include EU newcomers.

If I was in the US I would be hanging on to my guns and ammo. It's early days right now but the way people are talking about each other sounds like the country isn't going to heal anytime soon.

what realy stands out is there snowflakes geting involved with bretex debates and our left wing going nuts about trump on their threads,the left is trying to go global.and they love the buzz word populist

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The fight between left and right probably dates back hundreds of years probably - someone with a history background may help out here. 

Progress happens the best in pairs. It's why fighter pilots fly in pairs, it's why when you see in Tescos after work you see pairs of workmen working for the same company grabbing shopping for dinner after work.

Pairs keep each other sane, whilst helping each other on. It may not look it when you are shouting "racists" from one side and "fascists" from the other.

Perhaps it is a controlled game to keep the masses occupied, but the result is the same.

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5 minutes ago, 201p said:

The fight between left and right probably dates back hundreds of years probably - someone with a history background may help out here. 

Progress happens the best in pairs. It's why fighter pilots fly in pairs, it's why when you see in Tescos after work you see pairs of workmen working for the same company grabbing shopping for dinner after work.

Pairs keep each other sane, whilst helping each other on. It may not look it when you are shouting "racists" from one side and "fascists" from the other.

Perhaps it is a controlled game to keep the masses occupied, but the result is the same.

intersting concept but the left often results in bigger loss of life,even hittler got to power via a socialist party

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14 minutes ago, 201p said:

The fight between left and right probably dates back hundreds of years probably - someone with a history background may help out here. 

Progress happens the best in pairs. It's why fighter pilots fly in pairs, it's why when you see in Tescos after work you see pairs of workmen working for the same company grabbing shopping for dinner after work.

Pairs keep each other sane, whilst helping each other on. It may not look it when you are shouting "racists" from one side and "fascists" from the other.

Perhaps it is a controlled game to keep the masses occupied, but the result is the same.

The terms “Left” and “Right” in the political sense date back to the French National Assembly in the run up to the Revolution in 1789. But conceptually, the Optimates and Popularii of the Roman Republic were having pretty much the same ideological battles (the Popularii “lefties” won in the end and ushered in the era of Imperial despotism).

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1 hour ago, ThePiltdownMan said:

How far we are off from getting the same headline here? I had a look at census change and it shows us growing at 1.7% in the decade to 2011 but this will include EU newcomers.

If I was in the US I would be hanging on to my guns and ammo. It's early days right now but the way people are talking about each other sounds like the country isn't going to heal anytime soon.

In terms of white British alone, thats probably been happening for quite some time. 

If you go by country of Birth as a proxy for 'white British' (they only recorded 'white' in the 1991 census) the White British population probably peaked in the 1990s. 

 

Consider in 2016 there were 525,000 deaths in England/Wales. They dont note the race, but given the census ethnic profile of age, 90, perhaps nearer 95% of those will be white British. In 2016, there were 421,000 white-British births enumerated in England/Wales. About 3.5% of Birth's are not enumerated by race, so the real figure is perhaps nearer 440,000, but still thats well short of the near 500,000 white Brits dying every year. 

Its nothing new in Europe though. I'd imagine more white Germans were dying throughout the 1990s than were born. Same for Russia of course, and many E.Euro countries. 

The real shocker (for me) in recent racial statistic releases is that the overall white population of Canada has started to fall. Not just relatively, but nominally too. This, despite the fact that Canada is a supposedly healthy economy that attracts many white immigrants among all the other immigrants. Between 2011 and 2016, 75,000 fewer Canadians claimed to be white. 

 

A lot of people remark that its only relatively that whites are losing their place in the world. But given the massive reductions in population in Eastern/Central europe through 1990-2010, and now in Southern Europe too, and the only gains in western europe due to tranplanting in Eastern Europeans, it seems likely to me the world white population peaked in absolute terms at some point in the 1990s. 

Edited by PatronizingGit

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34 minutes ago, Hail the Tripod said:

The terms “Left” and “Right” in the political sense date back to the French National Assembly in the run up to the Revolution in 1789. But conceptually, the Optimates and Popularii of the Roman Republic were having pretty much the same ideological battles (the Popularii “lefties” won in the end and ushered in the era of Imperial despotism).

I think blogger old holborn, either himself or linking to someone else, said that 'all politics is essentially a never-ending battle between egomaniacs and autists' which made me laugh a little. 

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59 minutes ago, 201p said:

The fight between left and right probably dates back hundreds of years probably - someone with a history background may help out here. 

Progress happens the best in pairs. It's why fighter pilots fly in pairs, it's why when you see in Tescos after work you see pairs of workmen working for the same company grabbing shopping for dinner after work.

Pairs keep each other sane, whilst helping each other on. It may not look it when you are shouting "racists" from one side and "fascists" from the other.

Perhaps it is a controlled game to keep the masses occupied, but the result is the same.

 

This is something i've been thinking about a lot lately. 

Typically, globalists will declare something like 'wouldnt it be great if we could all work together, as one world, towards a common goal. If Russia, China and the USA worked under one administration to push ahead on space exploration we'd be miles ahead by now' 

 

But then, I thought, the fastest advances in space travel were in the 50s and 60s, when Russia & the USA were specifically working against each other. I think it may be that unity doesnt always help. There is no synergy. And people work hardest when there is someone else to 'beat' Perhaps beating the other guy is a bigger motivator than working with the other guy. 

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6 minutes ago, PatronizingGit said:

Perhaps beating the other guy is a bigger motivator than working with the other guy. 

Communism in Russia showed exactly this.  From each according to their ability; to each according to their need.

Everybody took this as a cue to do the absolute bare minimum because there was no reward for doing any more.  And everything slowly ground to a halt.

If you genuinely could gain no advantage from working and you had the option not to work then you wouldn't.

If there was a "Harvest for the World" as the Isley Brothers keep banging on about then we would all just sit back and wait to be fed as the food supply dwindled.

Working your arse off is a very unnatural state which people do because of the rewards it brings. If the rewards aren't there then you don't.  And ultimately everyone starves and nobody will ever go into space again.

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43 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

 

Working your arse off is a very unnatural state which people do because of the rewards it brings. If the rewards aren't there then you don't.  And ultimately everyone starves and nobody will ever go into space again.

nail on head,you can see why people aspire to nothing.in a perverse way you could call them ambitious to achive nothing work wize and suck at the tax payers teat and not get sucked into the system.

 

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