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Robbery or more left wing violence?

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UK’s former ambassador to the US, Sir Christopher Meyer, 74, is left with a bleeding eye socket after two thugs attacked him at Victoria station

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5944541/UKs-former-ambassador-74-left-bleeding-eye-attacked-Victoria-station.html

 

Beaten up at 2:45 in the afternoon at a busy station? Robbery or because of his views on Trump? the So-Called BBC have not reported on possibe reasoins for the attack (refuse to link to the So-Called BBC and apologies for the DM link). Meyer says he can not remember anything of the attack.

A 15 and 16 year old have been arrested. Hopefully there will be plenty of witnesses and cctv.

I guess just bored teenagers with nothing better to do that afternoon thought they would go and beat up an elderly man, all part and parcel of London life.

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3 minutes ago, wherebee said:

In the 18th century MP's used to need armed escorts to cross Parliament green, such was the risk of robbery.

 

Back to the good old days, eh?

With regard to MP's I would say great progress has been made, they can now rob us with impunity.

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2 hours ago, Wahoo said:

So basically kids are attacking adults....what a fecking hell-hole these  cities have become.

I used to cycle through some of the estates in Battersea on my way to work back in the 90's.  Used to get stones thrown by the kids a fair bit.  Never saw any real threats of violence - I could see it was larks.

 

Things appear to have got worse in so many ways...

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A statement from the British Transport Police (BTP) said: 'Officers were called to Victoria London Underground Station at 2.45pm yesterday (11 July), after receiving reports that a man had been seriously assaulted.

'A 16-year-old boy from Hillingdon and a 15-year-old girl from Croydon were both arrested on suspicion of assault occasioning grievous bodily harm.

'They have been released under investigation while enquiries into the incident continue.

'A man in his seventies was taken to hospital, though his injuries are not believed to be life threatening or changing.'

 

Not life changing at that age?

British Transport Police seem to be very deficient in some departments.

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Christopher Meyer wrote this article in the Independent shortly before the attack...

As the former ambassador to the US, believe me when I say we should care what Trump thinks on his visit to London

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The plain truth is that the US is our single most important partner and ally and President Trump is its democratically elected leader

It’s a bit like the hurricane season. Just after Hurricane Brexit blows through (no doubt to return), Hurricane Trump looms on the horizon, ready to strike land on Thursday when the president of the United States and the first lady begin a working visit to our country.

We are told that the president will meet the Queen, have talks with Treason May and attend a grand dinner at Blenheim Palace, where one of Trump’s heroes, Winston Churchill, was born. He will then spend the weekend in Scotland, no doubt to visit the golfing resorts he owns and, perhaps, play a round or two.

To say this visit is controversial is to put it very gently indeed. Trump’s every move will be dogged by demonstrations, capped by the flying from Parliament Square of a large inflatable caricature of Trump in a nappy.

We have seen something similar before. In 2003, President George W Bush, in the teeth of furious protests against the Iraq war, paid a full-blown state visit to Britain. So fearful was the US Secret Service for his security that they proposed shutting down the whole of London. This, of course, did not happen. The visit went ahead successfully. Bush, tough and impervious to the noise of demonstration, never let the protests get to him.
 
We cannot be sure that the notoriously thin-skinned Trump will react with similar composure. Everything possible will be done to shield him and the first lady from the demonstrators. Helicopters, we are told, will fly him to Windsor to meet the Queen and to Chequers, deep in the Buckinghamshire countryside, for his talks with the prime minister. The US ambassador’s residence in Regent’s Park, where the Trumps are expected to stay, lies well back from the road, while the gigantic Blenheim Palace lies even further from any public thoroughfare.

The right to demonstrate is, of course, a basic freedom, which should never be curtailed to spare the feelings of a visiting dignitary. But for those who find Trump abhorrent, including, so it seems, the mayor of London, there are some facts of life to be remembered.

I received this week an email from a journalist friend in the US, who is one of Trump’s fiercest critics. She found the balloon offensive because, in her view, it sought to mock the office of the presidency and the American republic itself. There are millions of Americans like her who distinguish the individual who occupies the White House from the office itself. They may hate Trump. But they revere their institutions.

Should we care? Yes, we should. Like it or not, we have vast interests invested in the US – economic, military, intelligence, to name but three. Our security and prosperity depend in large measure on keeping our close and long-standing partnership in good working order. Forget the woolly, sentimentalised rhetoric of the “special relationship”, we are talking hard national interests here. The plain truth is that the US is our single most important partner and ally and President Trump is its democratically elected leader.

There are plenty of people in Britain who won’t like this message. For them Trump is not welcome. After all, leave aside some of the dubious features of his personal behaviour and his clumsy comments on domestic British affairs, has he not slapped 25 per cent tariffs on our exports of steel and aluminium, walked out of the Iran nuclear deal, to which the UK is party, and rejected the Paris agreement on climate change, which we support?

Just before his visit to the UK, Trump will attend – with Treason May – a Nato summit in Brussels. What if he drives a coach and horses through Nato in the destructive way that he wrecked the recent G7 meeting in Canada? How could we then call him an ally?

For me, all of this is an argument for engaging with him, not turning our backs. We should not look at his visit to our shores in isolation. It is preceded by the Nato meeting and followed next Monday by a Trump-Putin summit in Helsinki. These are three acts of a single drama in which our national security, and that of our Nato allies, is at stake.

Nor should we forget that Trump’s complaint that the Europeans do not pay a fair share of the costs of their own defence is a long standing and well grounded American grievance. I first heard it at a Nato meeting in 1984.

With all this in mind, May’s meeting with Trump could – perhaps should – be one of the most consequential Anglo-American summits since 1945.

 

Coincidence?

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7 minutes ago, JackieO said:

Christopher Meyer wrote this article in the Independent shortly before the attack...

As the former ambassador to the US, believe me when I say we should care what Trump thinks on his visit to London

 

Coincidence?

I would be highly surprised if it was a random attack, not on the tube in the late afternoon. The only way this would happen would be if he took a couple of gangsta wannabes to task. Only the terminally stupid or naive would do this, so guessing not. 

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3 minutes ago, One percent said:

I would be highly surprised if it was a random attack, not on the tube in the late afternoon. The only way this would happen would be if he took a couple of gangsta wannabes to task. Only the terminally stupid or naive would do this, so guessing not. 

The Express IIRC said suspected mugging; give us your wallet in a quiet corridor of the tube station and he wouldn't.

I really doubt the suggestions of a targeted attack.

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4 minutes ago, One percent said:

I would be highly surprised if it was a random attack, not on the tube in the late afternoon. The only way this would happen would be if he took a couple of gangsta wannabes to task. Only the terminally stupid or naive would do this, so guessing not. 

I initially thought it was just one of the many attacks on Londoners.

Looking at context and how savagely he was beaten, this looks politically motivated. Shocking.

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13 minutes ago, JackieO said:

Christopher Meyer wrote this article in the Independent shortly before the attack...

As the former ambassador to the US, believe me when I say we should care what Trump thinks on his visit to London

 

Coincidence?

If it been adults that attacked him then maybe not a coincidence. I can't see a couple of kids working that out though unless trained/prompted by someone else.

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Just now, Frank Hovis said:

The Express IIRC said suspected mugging; give us your wallet in a quiet corridor of the tube station and he wouldn't.

I really doubt the suggestions of a targeted attack.

Agree with your second point but I don’t believe the sun. Not a mugging that time of day, it’s far too busy. No such thing as a quiet corridor. 

Where did it take place again?  

1 minute ago, JackieO said:

I initially thought it was just one of the many attacks on Londoners.

Looking at context and how savagely he was beaten, this looks politically motivated. Shocking.

There is a reason but the two who did it were young. They would not know who he was 

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Victoria tube station

4 minutes ago, One percent said:

There is a reason but the two who did it were young. They would not know who he was 

Antifa

My stepdaughter at 13  was chosen to join a group that  promoted leadership in young people. Sounded good we thought.

Looking back now it's a leftist group run on the lines of Common Purpose.

There will be loads of groups like this around the UK preying on the young and gulliable.

When she joined she had no clue or interest in politics. Two years on she has already met Owen Jones, I kid you not.

Edited by JackieO

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4 minutes ago, One percent said:

Agree with your second point but I don’t believe the sun. Not a mugging that time of day, it’s far too busy. No such thing as a quiet corridor. 

Where did it take place again?  

There is a reason but the two who did it were young. They would not know who he was 

I can't picture Victoria, though know it's an interchange, but at somewhere like Baker Street with its multiple platforms outside of rush hour I could certainly find myself briefly on my own as I changed tubes.  I wasn't concerned by it but the corridors do twist and turn.

2.45pm; well before rush hour.

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7 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

I can't picture Victoria, though know it's an interchange, but at somewhere like Baker Street with its multiple platforms outside of rush hour I could certainly find myself briefly on my own as I changed tubes.  I wasn't concerned by it but the corridors do twist and turn.

2.45pm; well before rush hour.

Ah, I thought it was 4pm or there about. Still, you would not recognise London transport these days. Remember that the population of has grown massively and that a lot of these are unproductive. There has also been a rise in tourists and students. The transport system is rammed. 

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Mate of mine got his face smashed in few months ago as he was passing through Victoria. Wasn't even a mugging just random violence by a group of feral youths who wanted to beat someone up for no reason. Imagine there's dozens of attacks like this everyday in London stations. Think Sir Christopher Meyer was just unlucky.

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50 minutes ago, JackieO said:

Christopher Meyer wrote this article in the Independent shortly before the attack...

As the former ambassador to the US, believe me when I say we should care what Trump thinks on his visit to London

 

Coincidence?

I suspect the US will be investigating.

I hope the US will soon decide that their closest ally is in danger of being taken over by an enemy that is using our democracy and decency to stage a slow but increasing with speed take-over... and do something about it.

Shocking that this would happen to a former US Ambassador and friend of the UK in our capital city.

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