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sarahbell

The rise of milk shake & dessert parlours

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That looks fun.  I'm sure they'll do well up to the point where it becomes hold-hat.  Much like any other fad industry.

But that's not to dismiss the fun fad industry -- just to be aware that in 5 years time it is best to ignore the moaning owners that thought they'd entered a new-normal and that the good times would last forever.

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19 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

The cupcake is dead long live the iced dessert.

There's one in Oldham that does frozen stuff that they make in front of you apparently.


 

There's a wave of them opening locally.
 

That’s a speciality in Muslims countries. Yoghurt poured over a frozen surface - we are enriched!

This is the Muslim food Street in Xi’an China:

I managed about a tenth of a tub - sickly taste and too sweet!

Edited by OurDayWillCome

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3 minutes ago, Cosmic Apple said:

Loads of these around Bradford uni. I always wondered if they were fronts as they are always empty... but probably just that I past them at the wrong time of day.

Have walked past the one in Oldham and not seen anyone in - perhaps it's an evening thing.

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16 minutes ago, OurDayWillCome said:

That’s a speciality in Muslims countries. Yoghurt poured over a frozen surface - we are enriched!

This is the Muslim food Street in Xi’an China:

I managed about a tenth of a tub - sickly taste and too sweet!

These sort of things seem to go down well in Muslim countries. They seem to like very strong, sweet, almost sickly tasting things like ice cream, cakes, shisha tobacco, strong coffee etc. My theory is it's an alternative to alcohol and they like getting slightly 'high' on sugar in the same way we like getting slightly high on booze. 

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There is a chain in Surrey called “Creams”. They are set up like a nightclub, dimly lit, purple and black leather decor, with a long “bar”, and deafening music. But instead of drinking and dancing, you just gorge on overpriced ice cream. Very strange.

Edit to add: Everything is sticky, and even though they try to mask it, there is a pervasive smell of off milk.

Edited by Hail the Tripod

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Probably taking over the latest fad baton from Burger Bars which appear to be dying on their arse now.

I do love a banana milkshake, though I reckon I'll be like Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction when it comes to the price.

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4 minutes ago, Hail the Tripod said:

There is a chain in Surrey called “Creams”. They are set up like a nightclub, dimly lit, purple and black leather decor, with a long “bar”, and deafening music. But instead of drinking and dancing, you just gorge on overpriced ice cream. Very strange.

Edit to add: Everything is sticky, and even though they try to mask it, there is a pervasive smell of off milk.

I wonder if this is because of the Islamification of Europe, or possibly because of large numbers of foreign undergraduates coming to the UK who do not share the heavy-drinking bar culture of most students, but who would still like a place to go out to and socialise in. Could it also be because our native young people have lost the pub culture as well?

Personally if I'm not in a pub I do quite like a traditional 'copper kettle' tea shop for tea and cakes but these are getting hard to find these days as well. 

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25 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

These sort of things seem to go down well in Muslim countries. They seem to like very strong, sweet, almost sickly tasting things like ice cream, cakes, shisha tobacco, strong coffee etc. My theory is it's an alternative to alcohol and they like getting slightly 'high' on sugar in the same way we like getting slightly high on booze. 

Not muslim per se - but I could eat curry dishes all day every day, but Indian sweets and desserts are way too sweet.

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4 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

I wonder if this is because of the Islamification of Europe, or possibly because of large numbers of foreign undergraduates coming to the UK who do not share the heavy-drinking bar culture of most students, but who would still like a place to go out to and socialise in. Could it also be because our native young people have lost the pub culture as well?

Personally if I'm not in a pub I do quite like a traditional 'copper kettle' tea shop for tea and cakes but these are getting hard to find these days as well. 

I think it caters to two market segments; spoiled children during the day, and (oddly enough) couples on a date in the evening*.

* It seems to have become somewhat trendy when going out for dinner to have drinks and nibbles at one place, then move on for the main course at a different place, then move on again for desert.

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1 minute ago, Hail the Tripod said:

I think it caters to two market segments; spoiled children during the day, and (oddly enough) couples on a date in the evening*.

* It seems to have become somewhat trendy when going out for dinner to have drinks and nibbles at one place, then move on for the main course at a different place, then move on again for desert.

I noticed that when watching Curb Your Enthusiasm - when out (they were always out) for dinner, there was usually a suggestion of going somewhere else for dessert.  Of course Larry would be exasperated as they 'do dessert here'.

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2 minutes ago, NewryH said:

Not muslim per se - but I could eat curry dishes all day every day, but Indian sweets and desserts are way too sweet.

I think it's something to do with the heat as well. In very hot weather, the taste buds seems to get dulled slightly, which is probably why people like hot curries and sugary sweets in India.

That said, really hot curries are pretty much a British invention; the typical Indian curry is a fairly mild lentil curry with curds. 

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1 minute ago, NewryH said:

I noticed that when watching Curb Your Enthusiasm - when out (they were always out) for dinner, there was usually a suggestion of going somewhere else for dessert.  Of course Larry would be exasperated as they 'do dessert here'.

I just can't watch Curb your enthusiasm. Not because it's bad, but because it cuts too close to the bone. I can't dissociate and laugh, instead I empathise and get frustrated and angry.

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4 minutes ago, NewryH said:

I noticed that when watching Curb Your Enthusiasm - when out (they were always out) for dinner, there was usually a suggestion of going somewhere else for dessert.  Of course Larry would be exasperated as they 'do dessert here'.

What the actual ****? Is this 'a thing' now? Going to different places for different courses? 

Since everyone will just be staring at their smartphones anyway, what does it matter if they stay in the same place?

Madness. 

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Bit of an aside..  but when my wife was working in the local primary school she questioned why they bought in banana milkshake powder rather than just make them  from banana’s and milk.  The response was..

“What,  from scratch?!!” [incredulous faces of horror]

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4 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

What the actual ****? Is this 'a thing' now? Going to different places for different courses? 

Since everyone will just be staring at their smartphones anyway, what does it matter if they stay in the same place?

Madness. 

Don't go out much for dinner - so can't say for sure, but I suspect it's more a womeny thing.  Dare I say that it gives 'them' a chance to walk into two places whilst looking good.

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Modern pish.

I much prefer proper stuff :

http://www.marysmilkbar.com/

"Mary’s Milk Bar is a cosy space for you to enjoy the best quality gelato and chocolate. The key to all Mary’s products is freshness. Mary makes the ice cream every morning until 11am so there are fresh, every-changing flavours to sample. This also means that the choice of flavours change every single day and can even sell out in the summer months – you better get down there early!

There aren’t chocolates with a shelf life of a year – everything uses fresh ingredients with no preservatives. This means everything is just that little bit more delicious!
Mary’s chocolates pride themselves on their soft centres and unusual tasty flavours. The gelato is soft and creamy – every week there’s new flavours and new ways to enjoy them. You can take a scoop away with you, enjoy a special seasonal sundae on a Friday or grab a hot chocolate float. In short, everything you want from an ice cream and chocolate is here. Mary also hosts little parties, workshops and tasting evenings for you to taste, learn about and enjoy gelato.

Mary has worked as a chocolatier for the last five years. She trained in Bologna, Italy at the prestigious Carpigiani Gelato University, not everyone can say they’re a Gelato graduate! She’s from that lovely republic of Yorkshire, and has fond memories of holidays in Scarborough, Whitby and Morecambe – all of which still have original milk bars.

Milk Bars were incredibly popular in Britain between the 20s and 60s – promoting wholesome milky products and an alternative to a stuffy tearooms or smoky pubs. There were National Milk Bars supported by the government to nourish the population after the world wars. They sold milkshakes, ice cream and some expanded into savoury products – all prepared with fresh milk. They pioneered the style of bar service which we take for granted today – novel in the 1920s to pay for your coffee first before receiving it at your table. Today many have either fallen on hard times or morphed into ice cream parlours or greasy spoon cafes. Glasgow still has a few of its own Milk Bars like Jaconelli’s in Maryhill and University Cafe on Byres Road.


Mary’s Milk Bar evokes the initial glamour of the deco parlours. Bathe in the formica glow, quaff an espresso, nibble a caramel and chit chat to Mary as she prepares her latest concoction."

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We have mentioned this before in terms of barbers, hairdressers and coffee shops. Imho, many are laundering and bennie fronts. Cas in hand can hide a number of things. If they are not busy, you need to ask how they keep going. Two ways

say they are employing people on 16 hours (family mainly). Pay minimum wage and watch the bennies roll in

second, have an illegal business, such as drug running through your taxi service. Wash the money through the business, saying that you are selling loads of your sickly sweet crap.  

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4 minutes ago, One percent said:

We have mentioned this before in terms of barbers, hairdressers and coffee shops. Imho, many are laundering and bennie fronts. Cas in hand can hide a number of things. If they are not busy, you need to ask how they keep going. Two ways

say they are employing people on 16 hours (family mainly). Pay minimum wage and watch the bennies roll in

second, have an illegal business, such as drug running through your taxi service. Wash the money through the business, saying that you are selling loads of your sickly sweet crap.  

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22 minutes ago, One percent said:

We have mentioned this before in terms of barbers, hairdressers and coffee shops. Imho, many are laundering and bennie fronts. Cas in hand can hide a number of things. If they are not busy, you need to ask how they keep going. Two ways

say they are employing people on 16 hours (family mainly). Pay minimum wage and watch the bennies roll in

second, have an illegal business, such as drug running through your taxi service. Wash the money through the business, saying that you are selling loads of your sickly sweet crap.  

Agreed.  They are opening up in diverse areas round West Yorks eg Harehills.  Always shutttered up when I drive past.

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29 minutes ago, Carl Fimble said:

Modern pish.

I much prefer proper stuff :

http://www.marysmilkbar.com/

"Mary’s Milk Bar is a cosy space for you to enjoy the best quality gelato and chocolate. The key to all Mary’s products is freshness. Mary makes the ice cream every morning until 11am so there are fresh, every-changing flavours to sample. This also means that the choice of flavours change every single day and can even sell out in the summer months – you better get down there early!

There aren’t chocolates with a shelf life of a year – everything uses fresh ingredients with no preservatives. This means everything is just that little bit more delicious!
Mary’s chocolates pride themselves on their soft centres and unusual tasty flavours. The gelato is soft and creamy – every week there’s new flavours and new ways to enjoy them. You can take a scoop away with you, enjoy a special seasonal sundae on a Friday or grab a hot chocolate float. In short, everything you want from an ice cream and chocolate is here. Mary also hosts little parties, workshops and tasting evenings for you to taste, learn about and enjoy gelato.

Mary has worked as a chocolatier for the last five years. She trained in Bologna, Italy at the prestigious Carpigiani Gelato University, not everyone can say they’re a Gelato graduate! She’s from that lovely republic of Yorkshire, and has fond memories of holidays in Scarborough, Whitby and Morecambe – all of which still have original milk bars.

Milk Bars were incredibly popular in Britain between the 20s and 60s – promoting wholesome milky products and an alternative to a stuffy tearooms or smoky pubs. There were National Milk Bars supported by the government to nourish the population after the world wars. They sold milkshakes, ice cream and some expanded into savoury products – all prepared with fresh milk. They pioneered the style of bar service which we take for granted today – novel in the 1920s to pay for your coffee first before receiving it at your table. Today many have either fallen on hard times or morphed into ice cream parlours or greasy spoon cafes. Glasgow still has a few of its own Milk Bars like Jaconelli’s in Maryhill and University Cafe on Byres Road.


Mary’s Milk Bar evokes the initial glamour of the deco parlours. Bathe in the formica glow, quaff an espresso, nibble a caramel and chit chat to Mary as she prepares her latest concoction."

Lot of unnecessary waffle there, but I bet the stuff served is good. 

 

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