Government planned "coup d'État" in case of Le Pen win

[Dave Bloke 3,199]

They say it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always wins.

According to secret plans leaked to the Nouvelle Observateur magazine a cabal of government minsters and senior civil servants planned an institutional coup d'État in case of a Le Pen victory in the presidential elections. The idea would have been to recall parliament and run the country directly until legislative elections, the prime minister, Bernard Cazeneuve would have refused to resign. This is allowed by the constitution but would be unprecedented. Normally the government resigns after a change of president as it is no longer democratically legitimate and this gives the new president a chance to present his team to the electorate before parliamentary elections. Unlike the UK France has no official opposition or system of shadow cabinet.

The justification for these extreme measures would be "public order" with a the Directorate for Public Order running the country (shades of the French revolution). It would have created a stand-off between parliament and the president. The president can suspend parliament for a short period and rule directly... but only having consulted with parliament and the constitutional court both bodies opposed to a FN victory.

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/presidentielle-2017/20170516.OBS9474/si-le-pen-avait-ete-elue-le-plan-secret-pour-proteger-la-republique.html

[Frank Hovis 18,763]

The establishment closing ranks.  Do what you're told little people.  Vote how you're told.

[onlyme 3,724]

46 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

The establishment closing ranks.  Do what you're told little people.  Vote how you're told.

Goes without saying. Fund the media groups peddling the nominated candidate at taxpayer expense either directly or indirectly, gag, threaten and demonetise the media that holds any counter-position.

 

[swiss_democracy_for_all 8,034]

Nice. So what are they saying - France is ungovernable and the people don't believe in democracy, or at least, we don't?

It's like the worst of the Remainers but quite a lot worse.

Wankers. Not a fan of Le Pen, but if she wins it must be accepted and they must live with their choice for a while at least.

 

[The Masked Tulip 21,889]

Seems to be what we are seeing in the US. Obama is the first US Pres in my lifetime who has not just shut up, gone away and we only hear of him again from time to time over the years.

[Chewing Grass 6,747]

41 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Seems to be what we are seeing in the US. Obama is the first US Pres in my lifetime who has not just shut up, gone away and we only hear of him again from time to time over the years.

Same with the great undead Mr Blair then.

[Horrified Onlooker 1,821]

47 minutes ago, swissy_fit said:

Nice. So what are they saying - France is ungovernable and the people don't believe in democracy, or at least, we don't?

It's like the worst of the Remainers but quite a lot worse.

 

Quelle surprise as they say around Hartlepool these days......

[One percent 28,076]

46 minutes ago, Horrified Onlooker said:

Quelle surprise as they say around Hartlepool these days......

I see they didn't do a good job of ridding themselves of the French spies if that's the language they use in those parts now

[Happy Renting 6,475]

3 hours ago, davidg said:

They say it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always wins.

According to secret plans leaked to the Nouvelle Observateur magazine a cabal of government minsters and senior civil servants planned an institutional coup d'État in case of a Le Pen victory in the presidential elections. The idea would have been to recall parliament and run the country directly until legislative elections, the prime minister, Bernard Cazeneuve would have refused to resign. This is allowed by the constitution but would be unprecedented. Normally the government resigns after a change of president as it is no longer democratically legitimate and this gives the new president a chance to present his team to the electorate before parliamentary elections. Unlike the UK France has no official opposition or system of shadow cabinet.

The justification for these extreme measures would be "public order" with a the Directorate for Public Order running the country (shades of the French revolution). It would have created a stand-off between parliament and the president. The president can suspend parliament for a short period and rule directly... but only having consulted with parliament and the constitutional court both bodies opposed to a FN victory.

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/presidentielle-2017/20170516.OBS9474/si-le-pen-avait-ete-elue-le-plan-secret-pour-proteger-la-republique.html

Mais l'article est en French, and c'est derriere un paywall, et je pense cest merde de taureau.

[Oskar 626]

15 minutes ago, Happy Renting said:

Mais l'article est en French, and c'est derriere un paywall, et je pense cest merde de taureau.

Murky buckets

[swiss_democracy_for_all 8,034]

17 minutes ago, Happy Renting said:

Mais l'article est en French, and c'est derriere un paywall, et je pense cest merde de taureau.

I shall consult my politician landlady on whether this is the sheet of the bull....

[Happy Renting 6,475]

2 hours ago, swissy_fit said:

I shall consult my politician landlady on whether this is the sheet of the bull....

Vous avez a femme de terre politique? Oh Mon Dieu.

[Dave Bloke 3,199]

A summary in the Graun: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/18/secret-plans-protect-le-pen-french-republic-emerge

[Libspero 2,959]

The French waved their little white flags at the Germans though so it's all a bit academic 

[spygirl 12,245]

 Not reall a coup. More civil service foot dragging.

The plan shows whst wrong in French politics and civil service - they assume they are the main actors in it all. 

This plan woukd have resulted in the gen pop in the streets and riots, forcing a facebook with the hoi polloi and the highly trained idiots.

[Happy Renting 6,475]

4 hours ago, spygirl said:

 Not reall a coup. More civil service foot dragging.

The plan shows whst wrong in French politics and civil service - they assume they are the main actors in it all. 

This plan woukd have resulted in the gen pop in the streets and riots, forcing a facebook with the hoi polloi and the highly trained idiots.

[spygirl 12,245]

2 minutes ago, Happy Renting said:

Got me horsey. facedown!

Here's Macron's FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/EmmanuelMacron/

 

Most of the comments are from ladies who'll never see 55 again.

[Happy Renting 6,475]

I thought I was mauling the English language with my Franglais, but you outdo me every time.

[The XYY Man 6,765]

On 19/05/2017 at 11:12, Horrified Onlooker said:

Quelle surprise as they say around Hartlepool these days......

 

On 19/05/2017 at 11:59, One percent said:

I see they didn't do a good job of ridding themselves of the French spies if that's the language they use in those parts now

It's used as a way to flush these crafty French fuckers out.

Like when the Kraut wished Gordon Jackson's character "Good luck" in "The Great Escape"...

 

 

XYY

[spygirl 12,245]

23 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

 

It's used as a way to flush these crafty French fuckers out.

Like when the Kraut wished Gordon Jackson's character "Good luck" in "The Great Escape"...

 

 

XYY

I grew up a few doors up  from a bloke a who was in the event that inspired the great escape.

[Captain Cavey 2,157]

4 hours ago, spygirl said:

I grew up a few doors up  from a bloke a who was in the event that inspired the great escape.

Hitler?

[spygirl 12,245]

1 minute ago, Captain Cavey said:

Hitler?

Mein gott!

Exposed.