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I am a frequent listener to iPlayer Radio; mainly for old comedies but for some new ones like Count Arthur Strong and Meet David Sedaris.

I don't watch IPlayer as I don't have a TV licence, and haven't since last September when the rules changed, but I listen to iPlayer Radio as I listen to Radio 4 extra since there is no licence required to listen to the radio.

This last week I have been nagged to set up an account to listen to iPlayer Radio with the flag that I will have to do this at some stage.

So I clicked the "Why we’re asking you to sign in" link which took me to the page below.   There is a spurious bit about customisation (from which you can opt out, so making it entirely spurious) and telling you about other programmes you may want to listen to but then it gets onto the meat of it:

 

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Will you share my data with TV Licensing?

We share some of your personal data with TV Licensing to check if you are using BBC iPlayer and to keep their database up to date.

 

Now I don't watch iPlayer or live TV; I just don't.

But to legitimately listen to their radio programes I now have to provide my personal details to the So-Called BBC who will then pass them on to TV licensing who can then personalise their harrassment.

What a bunch of tossers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/why-we-are-asking-you-to-sign-in#!ptrt=http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tbwz#play

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41 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

I am a frequent listener to iPlayer Radio; mainly for old comedies but for some new ones like Count Arthur Strong and Meet David Sedaris.

I don't watch IPlayer as I don't have a TV licence, and haven't since last September when the rules changed, but I listen to iPlayer Radio as I listen to Radio 4 extra since there is no licence required to listen to the radio.

This last week I have been nagged to set up an account to listen to iPlayer Radio with the flag that I will have to do this at some stage.

So I clicked the "Why we’re asking you to sign in" link which took me to the page below.   There is a spurious bit about customisation (from which you can opt out, so making it entirely spurious) and telling you about other programmes you may want to listen to but then it gets onto the meat of it:

 

Now I don't watch iPlayer or live TV; I just don't.

But to legitimately listen to their radio programes I now have to provide my personal details to the So-Called BBC who will then pass them on to TV licensing who can then personalise their harrassment.

What a bunch of tossers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/why-we-are-asking-you-to-sign-in#!ptrt=http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tbwz#play

Tossers indeed.

But can't you register completely anonymously ? use 10minuetmail (I expect they send a quick verification email), wrong DOB, wrong postcode, do the registration while logged on to different IP. So long as you remember the e-mail address for future logon (or your browser does), it should be OK, shouldn't it ? If you forget just register again. I use that approach for most things that ask for registration. if I'm wrong, I'm not as anonymous as I hope.

Edited by Hopeful

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9 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

I am a frequent listener to iPlayer Radio; mainly for old comedies but for some new ones like Count Arthur Strong and Meet David Sedaris.

I don't watch IPlayer as I don't have a TV licence, and haven't since last September when the rules changed, but I listen to iPlayer Radio as I listen to Radio 4 extra since there is no licence required to listen to the radio.

This last week I have been nagged to set up an account to listen to iPlayer Radio with the flag that I will have to do this at some stage.

So I clicked the "Why we’re asking you to sign in" link which took me to the page below.   There is a spurious bit about customisation (from which you can opt out, so making it entirely spurious) and telling you about other programmes you may want to listen to but then it gets onto the meat of it:

 

Now I don't watch iPlayer or live TV; I just don't.

But to legitimately listen to their radio programes I now have to provide my personal details to the So-Called BBC who will then pass them on to TV licensing who can then personalise their harrassment.

What a bunch of tossers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/why-we-are-asking-you-to-sign-in#!ptrt=http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tbwz#play

I have a tv licence because I have a son who isn't annoyed about it like me. I do watch a few dramas on BBC like wolf hall, the missing, line of duty and recently three girls but I could buy them and be better off than paying the extortionate licence fee.

I'm extremely annoyed about the sign in malarkey on iPlayer because I fucking hate the hassle of passwords and signing in. BBC....bullying backward c**ts.

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2 minutes ago, Economic Exile said:

I'm extremely annoyed about the sign in malarkey on iPlayer because I fucking hate the hassle of passwords and signing in. BBC....bullying backward c**ts.

They want you to sign in so they can conveniently track and profile you.

The So-Called BBC is the public face of TPTB.

Edited by Chewing Grass
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5 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

They want you to sign in so they can conveniently track and profile you.

The So-Called BBC is the public face of TPTB.

Yes, they're twats. If it wasn't for my son living here I wouldn't pay the licence.

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<group name="Ministry Of Information"><bookmark name="BBC Radio 1" url="http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio1_mf_q"/><bookmark name="BBC Radio 2" url="http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio2_mf_q"/><bookmark name="BBC Radio 3" url="http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls"/><bookmark name="BBC Radio 4" url="http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_q"/><bookmark name="BBC Radio 4 Extra" url="http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4extra_mf_q"/><bookmark name="BBC World Service" url="http://wsdownload.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/meta/live/shoutcast/mp3/eieuk.pls"/>

Can't help with the on demand stuff, but these urls currently work to listen to live radio online with a media player. Can't remember what works on windows media player, but works fine on linux mplayer.

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I have no objections to the So-Called BBC having sign in for their services as I either don't use them or would happily stop using them. They aren't obliged to offer radio catch up etc to non-licence fee payers and I were them I would be locking down as much as possible so licence fee payers can see what they are getting for their money.  I have some sympathy with the view that a lot of people won't really appreciate what they offer until it disappears. 

If the So-Called BBC is equivalent to Amazon i.e. offering a bundle of services in exchange for cash/personal data - then it would be bonkers to make them freely available without getting something in return. 

I do feel for the So-Called BBC a bit as they are between a rock and a hard place. For years, the populace has accepted the deal of paying for establishment propaganda on the grounds that we were too ignorant to realise that's what it was, or that enough of it was sufficiently entertaining that we were prepared to subsidise the rest. It worked for a long time because there was no real alternative. Now there is - and they are floundering around (while hobbled by government) trying to figure out their place in the world in the face of contradictory demands from all sides. 

The So-Called BBC has obviously decided that iplayer radio falls into the sufficiently entertaining category. I bet the news site doesn't disappear behind a paywall though... I reckon that's far too valuable as a global soft power tool. 

Live BBC radio still works without sign on in a radio btw. 

Edited by SCC

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As an upside I noted on my last threatening letter that 94% of UK households have a TV licence.

This was 96% a couple of years' ago and 98% about five years' ago.  That's a rapid decline and a far cry from when the ONS didn't even survey it as pretty much everyone was assumed to have one.

I don't think it's refuseniks seeing the light; more the expected wave of young people coming through who think TVs and the So-Called BBC are something that their parents do.

Add in the ageing population turning 75 which doesn't pay but still appears in that 94% and it's beginning to get interesting.  Death by a thousand cuts to bloated biased greedy "Auntie" Beeb.

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19 minutes ago, SCC said:

I have no objections to the So-Called BBC having sign in for their services as I either don't use them or would happily stop using them. They aren't obliged to offer radio catch up etc to non-licence fee payers and I were them I would be locking down as much as possible so licence fee payers can see what they are getting for their money.  I have some sympathy with the view that a lot of people won't really appreciate what they offer until it disappears. 

If the So-Called BBC is equivalent to Amazon i.e. offering a bundle of services in exchange for cash/personal data - then it would be bonkers to make them freely available without getting something in return. 

I do feel for the So-Called BBC a bit as they are between a rock and a hard place. For years, the populace has accepted the deal of paying for establishment propaganda on the grounds that we were too ignorant to realise that's what it was, or that enough of it was sufficiently entertaining that we were prepared to subsidise the rest. It worked for a long time because there was no real alternative. Now there is - and they are floundering around (while hobbled by government) trying to figure out their place in the world in the face of contradictory demands from all sides. 

The So-Called BBC has obviously decided that iplayer radio falls into the sufficiently entertaining category. I bet the news site doesn't disappear behind a paywall though... I reckon that's far too valuable as a global soft power tool. 

Live BBC radio still works without sign on in a radio btw. 

World serive is good.

The tv but, where all the money is poured is shit.

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