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WorkingPoor

Why were there so many Serial Killers in the 1980's

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Interesting bit of investigative journalism from the beeb: 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45324622

Over three decades in the late 20th century, there was a rise in serial homicides in North America. One historian asks whether the ravages of World War Two were a factor. 

Peter Vronsky's fascination with serial killers began when, at 23, he bumped into one in a lift. 

It was 1979, and the Canadian historian was in New York City for work. 

He was impatiently waiting for the lift, which was stalled on the fourth floor of the seedy Travel Inn Motor Hotel, and shot a dirty look at the man who bumped his shoulder as he left the elevator that had finally arrived in the lobby. 

"He kind of just saw through me," says Vronsky. "He looked like a guy in a daze. It's as if I wasn't there." 

The next morning, Vronsky read about an horrific double murder and mutilationthat had taken place in the hotel the previous day. 

It was a year later, seeing newspaper coverage on the arrest and trial of Richard Cottingham, that he finally realised that the "Butcher of Times Square" and the man in the lift were one and the same. 

It made him wonder: "Where did these monsters come from? What are these things?"

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I think there's research to show that removing lead from petrol resulted in a big drop in reported crime. 

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12 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

I think there's research to show that removing lead from petrol resulted in a big drop in reported crime. 

How did lead make people do crime? 

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Seems like lead affects decision making somehow. Takes 20 years to show in the statistics though. 

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Not just a case of improvment in technology that allowed them to catch the perps? Would have been fairly easy for a physcopath to get away with it back in the day. Not so easy these days and probably why we don't see as many.

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53 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

Interesting bit of investigative journalism from the beeb: 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45324622

Over three decades in the late 20th century, there was a rise in serial homicides in North America. One historian asks whether the ravages of World War Two were a factor. 

Peter Vronsky's fascination with serial killers began when, at 23, he bumped into one in a lift. 

It was 1979, and the Canadian historian was in New York City for work. 

He was impatiently waiting for the lift, which was stalled on the fourth floor of the seedy Travel Inn Motor Hotel, and shot a dirty look at the man who bumped his shoulder as he left the elevator that had finally arrived in the lobby. 

"He kind of just saw through me," says Vronsky. "He looked like a guy in a daze. It's as if I wasn't there." 

The next morning, Vronsky read about an horrific double murder and mutilationthat had taken place in the hotel the previous day. 

It was a year later, seeing newspaper coverage on the arrest and trial of Richard Cottingham, that he finally realised that the "Butcher of Times Square" and the man in the lift were one and the same. 

It made him wonder: "Where did these monsters come from? What are these things?"

I reckon Vronsky did the murder and set up Cotyingham. It seems a bit too coincidental.

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1 hour ago, WorkingPoor said:

How did lead make people do crime? 

Made them thicker and more impulsive; especially affecting children's braind..  There was more violence generally in the 70s and 80s.  In the US leaded petrol was phased out by State and research showed strong correlation between the phase out date and subsequent falls in violent crime.

So having successfully made our own people brighter and less impulsive we have decided to import lots of people from hitter countries who are exactly that.

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Joking aside you had the 1980's recessions which, in the US, saw massive movements of people from state to state as people left the declining rust-bucket states to head to the likes of California, Florida.

I suspect that meant plenty of people in unknown places and people putting themselves in vulenerable positions on the road, at truck-stops, looking for new digs in new towns, etc. Ideal prey for killers.

It would not surprise me if there are still countless missing people all across America who were murdered at that time simply because they had no one to miss them and because they fell into the clutches of these people.

I read something a few years back that said that the FBI believed that there could be about 300 serial killers on the loose in the US. No idea what truth there is in that or how the FBI came to that number.

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No internet porn as a lightning rod for sexual aggression.

Not sure about the lead in petrol thing as women seemed to be more immune to its effects if that's the case.

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