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Chewing Grass

When the left loses control of the EU

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The left is losing ground to the right across Europe as it gerrymanders the continent through mass migration.

As countries drift away from the left the unelected commissars in Brussels get more detached from members states and when Germany lurches away from a centre left government there is a repeat of the night of the long knives as officials are ousted and are replaced with new replacements aligned with the new-order.

Was this the plan all along, why does everyone assume that the EU will always be 'socialist', things can change in a week.

The biggest weakness of the EU is that it can be hijacked in days, just like when Blair grabbed control of the British Labour Party.

You have been warned.

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24 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

The left is losing ground to the right across Europe as it gerrymanders the continent through mass migration.

As countries drift away from the left the unelected commissars in Brussels get more detached from members states and when Germany lurches away from a centre left government there is a repeat of the night of the long knives as officials are ousted and are replaced with new replacements aligned with the new-order.

Was this the plan all along, why does everyone assume that the EU will always be 'socialist', things can change in a week.

The biggest weakness of the EU is that it can be hijacked in days, just like when Blair grabbed control of the British Labour Party.

You have been warned.

This is a scenario that is all too easy to envisage.

Pro EU fanatics in the UK tend to forget that one of the earliest proponents of a European super state was Oswald Moseley in his book Europe A Nation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_a_Nation

One suspects this is one of the reasons why old Labour left wingers like Tony Benn were always opposed to the idea. The EU is essentially run by unelected officials and its lack of true democratic governance means it could become a fast road to fascism. It is worth remembering that most of the constituent states of the EU had totalitarian governments of either the right or left sometime between 1930 and 1990. 

 

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to many wogs and ropers aready here for that to happen,add to that anyone who works has a cival servant and the unemployed or gets any form of benifit ie univeral or working tax credits and you might find out we are aready out voted

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26 minutes ago, stokiescum said:

to many wogs and ropers aready here for that to happen,add to that anyone who works has a cival servant and the unemployed or gets any form of benifit ie univeral or working tax credits and you might find out we are aready out voted

Nobody "votes" for the EU... it's ripe for a take over. You only have to get 8.2% of the population to get a seat. (made up stat, but you get the point.)

It's like they spent 40 years crafting a fine set of gallows and a nice long bit of rope and then spent all their time standing around wondering who eventually will get hanged. xD

 

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31 minutes ago, XswampyX said:

Nobody "votes" for the EU... it's ripe for a take over. You only have to get 8.2% of the population to get a seat. (made up stat, but you get the point.)

It's like they spent 40 years crafting a fine set of gallows and a nice long bit of rope and then spent all their time standing around wondering who eventually will get hanged. xD

 

they will make them vote again until they get the result they want

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1 minute ago, stokiescum said:

they will make them vote again until they get the result they want

Eventually the baying crowd will want their hanging. There's nobody on the right to hang. It's all the lefts fault. :Jumping:

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8 minutes ago, XswampyX said:

Eventually the baying crowd will want their hanging. There's nobody on the right to hang. It's all the lefts fault. :Jumping:

ironicly only the recent inports from africa and muzza countrys and the far right would vote for hanging,the irony of mortal enermys agreeing on something.

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12 minutes ago, stokiescum said:

ironicly only the recent inports from africa and muzza countrys and the far right would vote for hanging,the irony of mortal enermys agreeing on something.

Know your enemy.

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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

 

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What I've seen on Reddit posts and sadly, personal conversation, is that the more the leftie numbers dwindle, the more fanatical those remaining become.

'Kill all Nazis' get posted on Reddit with regularity. Of course, Nazi is defined as anyone who disagrees with the official message.

Strange state of affairs where people can go from cheering on the Occupy movement and then call for the death of anybody that disagrees with the elites.

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1 hour ago, jm51 said:

What I've seen on Reddit posts and sadly, personal conversation, is that the more the leftie numbers dwindle, the more fanatical those remaining become.

'Kill all Nazis' get posted on Reddit with regularity. Of course, Nazi is defined as anyone who disagrees with the official message.

Strange state of affairs where people can go from cheering on the Occupy movement and then call for the death of anybody that disagrees with the elites.

And the more desperate they become the more they reveal what nasty, evil people they are. Normal people capable of thought can see it for what it is. Unfortunately there will always be some who will be brainwashed and get caught up in the nasty far left extremism.

Anyone (left or right) who advocates violence as a justified means against those who disagree deserves a harsh punishment.

Let them reveal themselves for the nasty, bigoted, intolerent people they are.

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On 11/09/2018 at 22:17, Virgil Caine said:

This is a scenario that is all too easy to envisage.

Pro EU fanatics in the UK tend to forget that one of the earliest proponents of a European super state was Oswald Moseley in his book Europe A Nation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_a_Nation

One suspects this is one of the reasons why old Labour left wingers like Tony Benn were always opposed to the idea. The EU is essentially run by unelected officials and its lack of true democratic governance means it could become a fast road to fascism. It is worth remembering that most of the constituent states of the EU had totalitarian governments of either the right or left sometime between 1930 and 1990. 

 

Don't deny the EU is run by unelected officials. It's same in UK though so a bit misleading comment. 

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On 11/09/2018 at 21:38, Chewing Grass said:

The left is losing ground to the right across Europe as it gerrymanders the continent through mass migration.

As countries drift away from the left the unelected commissars in Brussels get more detached from members states and when Germany lurches away from a centre left government there is a repeat of the night of the long knives as officials are ousted and are replaced with new replacements aligned with the new-order.

Was this the plan all along, why does everyone assume that the EU will always be 'socialist', things can change in a week.

The biggest weakness of the EU is that it can be hijacked in days, just like when Blair grabbed control of the British Labour Party.

You have been warned.

Not everyone does assume this, but the snowflakes and other political illiterates don't have a sufficient grasp of history or politics to see this. 

What's happening now in the EU puts me in mind of the former Soviet satellite states around 1989. They were run by a small elite who relied on a tier of loyal functionaries to keep everything going, while the mass of ordinary people got more and more sick of the whole system.

Eventually the elite realised which way the wind was blowing and jumped ship very quickly, adapting themselves to the new reality very quickly and getting what they could out of it. Those that tried to fight the change, like Ceaucescu in Romania, got put up against a wall and shot.  The loyal functionaries left behind are utterly ruined, like fish out of water - or the chief of police in The Lives of Others, who after the fall of communism was reduced to scraping a living by delivering junk mail. 

Since the EU, like the communist countries, is mainly run by troughers (can you imagine someone like Kinnock resigning his post on principle because the EU is taken over by the right? No, nor I) I can see something similar happening with the EU if a critical mass swings it to the right. The troughers will just adapt rather than allow the whole system to fall apart. 

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13 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

Don't deny the EU is run by unelected officials. It's same in UK though so a bit misleading comment. 

Certainly having worked for a council the people with the power are the senior officials.  The councillors get a token vote on things brought to them but they don't get to set the agenda; mostly they just get to ratify it.

I didn't get the impression that this was the way that Westminster worked primarily because there the politicians do actually decide upon the budget of tax and spend which drives so much of what then happens. 

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16 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

Don't deny the EU is run by unelected officials. It's same in UK though so a bit misleading comment. 

I don't disagree with that point but my feeling is that the EU has facilitated that process in the UK. It is part of the justification for eroding our influence over our own officials. Certainly those of us old enough to remember Britain before it joined the Greater Luxembourg coalition will have noted the two trends running hand in hand.

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2 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

Certainly having worked for a council the people with the power are the senior officials.  The councillors get a token vote on things brought to them but they don't get to set the agenda; mostly they just get to ratify it.

I didn't get the impression that this was the way that Westminster worked primarily because there the politicians do actually decide upon the budget of tax and spend which drives so much of what then happens. 

There are a couple of educational documentaries on the way Westminster works. They were produced in a humorous way so that people understand them but are in fact deadly serious. 

One was called "Yes, Minister" and the other "Yes, Prime Minister". 

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7 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

There are a couple of educational documentaries on the way Westminster works. They were produced in a humorous way so that people understand them but are in fact deadly serious. 

One was called "Yes, Minister" and the other "Yes, Prime Minister". 

If only they could produce a comedy called 'Ja, Herr Commissioner' about how the EU works. 

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On 11/09/2018 at 23:35, Alonso Quijano said:

Pretty soon it's going to have its own army too.

What could go wrong?

Imagine having to fight for them to defend your dhimmi state. Cant see people fighting toi hard.

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