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Spunko mentioned somewhere about using VPNs and recommended a Swedish one as being OK.

Never used one, but Im thinking of signing up for it, but I dont know the first thing about them; could anyone give a bit of advice please, hopefully in laymans terms?

The main reason I want it is because there are a couple of forums that I used to frequent which are based in the US, and now when I try to visit, I get an Error 1009 message saying that the owner of this website has banned the country or region your IP address is in from accessing this website.

If I get a VPN, will I be aboe to visit this and other sites in the US?

With a VPN is all your browsing done through it or can you select whether you route through the VPN or direct?

Will it make browsing and downloads slower?

Thanks for any tips!

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1. If I get a VPN, will I be aboe to visit this and other sites in the US?

Possibly. It depends - the site owner may have placed the known IP address list of the VPN you're using in a block list. No way to know until you try. However the answer is "probably".

2. With a VPN is all your browsing done through it or can you select whether you route through the VPN or direct? 

You can switch a VPN on and off on the device you use to browse. On, say, WIndows, it is possible to add a route command to exclude some targets from travelling through the VPN and vice-versa though probably not on Apple, Android etc unless there's an app that can do that.

You may be able to configure your modem/router to connect to the VPN thus placing every device in your home "behind" the VPN as we do. So for instance the TV downstairs presents itself as the same IP as this PC in my home office.

3. Will it make browsing and downloads slower?

Yes. How much slower depends on how congested the VPN is and how fast your connection is. If you have something miserably slow like ADSL then it won't notice much. If you have cable or 4G (our home has a 4G connection) then it will notice. A lot. Mostly on the downstream. For example normal for here is about 35 down 48 up. Through the VPN we use that's more like 9 down 22 up.

Additionally if the VPN is in America then every packet has to take a wide detour and that adds latency and other factors which slow the speed.

Avoid cheap VPNs that proudly proclaim that they're great for P2P. These attract bandwidth hogs who monopolise whatever bandwidth is available. Though to be honest most VPNs are a bit crap. If you want a 1-1 contention ratio which is to say that the bandwidth available to you matches your internet connection speed I believe Azure do one. When last I looked the price was something like £250/month. Or, you need your own dedicated VPN server with guaranteed bandwidth at a data centre and the knowledge needed to configure it.

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I use nord vpn. It's great! At home you can bypass the age restrictions and they have an android app so you can use show box from restricted WiFi. And they can't see what I'm looking at from the works WiFi.

Edited by XswampyX

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I've not had many problems with ipredator apart from when logging into my bank or PayPal. A few things don't work properly but overall id recommend them. Can't comment on the speed as I got 18mb down here at best from my isp 

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4 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

I use on called Tunnel Bear which works quite well, you can choose what proxy country you want to appear in. 

Same here. I only need to log in to a local US newspaper to follow son's progress so the 500MB per month free limit is plenty for me.

The thing to note is to close down every other site that may use bandwith when you use tunnelbear or they will eat your data in the background.

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I'm looking for a vpn to somewhere weird. If someone thinks I said some Hate Speech online then good luck trying to get me taken offline in Moldova. 

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I use Touch  VPN as and when needed it`s  quick to install /delete  so it`s ideal for occasional needs you can also just switch it of and choose from a list of countries where you are viewing from works great for sports but it do slow streaming 

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I would be wary of paying a big chunk of cash up front for some of these VPN services. Lots are disappearing or their services deteriorate suddenly. There is lots of consolidation in this sector with firms buying up other firms - some of these big chunk of cash up front for life offers might not be honoured in the future.

 

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I haven't tried every VPN that exists, but I do recall with a previous one * that some particular storylines in Coronation Street coming at the same time as the tennis, or whatever sporting event it was, were enough to render the one we were using totally useless in the evenings as people from around the world wanted to use the ITV and BBC players.

Fill up the servers, pocket the money. People then start leaving when the service becomes atrocious. Maybe add another server if enough people leave. And so on.

Don't make any kind of ongoing commitment.

* Astrill, IIRC

Edited by DTMark

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Can they not see everything anyway? 

I suspect shit built in to OS's and chips "talks back" to someone and everything is visible somehow or other.

I don't bother with any "cloaking" at all.

Edited by Carl Fimble
talks not talk

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I run a Skywire node and I do use it as well to watch stuff like iplayer or stream something from the US

Skywire is more than a VPN and maybe in a few years will be like TOR with a whole separate network

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2 hours ago, Carl Fimble said:

Can they not see everything anyway? 

I suspect shit built in to OS's and chips "talks back" to someone and everything is visible somehow or other.

I don't bother with any "cloaking" at all.

I would go with the assumption that everything we do is monitored, including SSL and VPN (some VPNs may be creations of surveillance states) but if you're just torrenting some media it's still worth using a VPN because they wouldn't give up details to the courts.

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37 minutes ago, inactionman said:

You want to avoid tunnel bear now, as they were bought by Mcafee, so will be backdoored by you know who through their american parent before you know about it.

But if all I want to do is access some US news sites that have just denied access to Europe, why would that bother me?

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2 minutes ago, Cunning Plan said:

But if all I want to do is access some US news sites that have just denied access to Europe, why would that bother me?

It's not the crime of the century. Your main priority is to gain access to the news sites, not to block the fact that you have done so. They're not riddled with child pornography. One assumes.

In which case any VPN that enables you to gain access will do.

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6 hours ago, Carl Fimble said:

Can they not see everything anyway? 

I suspect shit built in to OS's and chips "talks back" to someone and everything is visible somehow or other.

I don't bother with any "cloaking" at all.

Try streaming football rugby or any high profile sport without a VPN ...that`s my reason

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Article 13 going though today VPN's could become mainstream. 

Somewhat counter productive for the wide scale internet monitoring if a large proportion of internet users with to VPN;s. Wonder if anyone form the EU parliament has even thought though the knock on effects.

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1 hour ago, onlyme said:

Article 13 going though today VPN's could become mainstream. 

Somewhat counter productive for the wide scale internet monitoring if a large proportion of internet users with to VPN;s. Wonder if anyone form the EU parliament has even thought though the knock on effects.

Indeed, upload filters and the link tax have the potential to see the eu accidentally shoot itself in the face in an hilarious way when it takes away the social media and other web experiences that have become an enjoyable part of everyday life for a very large majority of the general public. The GDPR cookie warnings and GDPR related regional blocking is vaguely annoying, but this legislation has the potential to have people saying 'fuck you eu' every time they cannot do something on the web they previously enjoyed. It might even cause them to start thinking more in depth about government and society, which will not end well for globalist interests.

Sargon and Dankula were at the eu parliament to speak at some committee on behalf of UKIP. Impressions from their reports included how hated UKIP are in the eu parliament and how opaque and non democratic the structure and legislative process of the place is. Their opinion was Articles 11 & 13 were supported mainly because brexit and the existential threat it poses to the eu were a result of 'non approved' media sources on the net. They commented that the result of the vote was greeted with a cheer amongst the eu parliamentarians.

Assuming this does pass through the remaining legislative stages, the question of how to actually enforce this legislation remains. The film, tv and music industries have been trying unsuccessfully for years to shut down streaming sites,  but they are still there. I look forward to learning how to continue enjoying the web, finding ways around the legislation and laughing at the unintended consequences of the eu's contempt for the peoples it claims to represent.

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50 minutes ago, Caravan Monster said:

Assuming this does pass through the remaining legislative stages, the question of how to actually enforce this legislation remains. The film, tv and music industries have been trying unsuccessfully for years to shut down streaming sites,  but they are still there. I look forward to learning how to continue enjoying the web, finding ways around the legislation and laughing at the unintended consequences of the eu's contempt for the peoples it claims to represent.

The way is will be wielded is like this ... if you post a picture of the members of the EU and some comment like "what a bunch of wankers!" it will be removed because they hold the copyright of that image, and you have to pay!

It's not censorship they all bleat! Baaaaah! It's the rule of law.

 

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3 minutes ago, XswampyX said:

The way is will be wielded is like this ... if you post a picture of the members of the EU and some comment like "what a bunch of wankers!" it will be removed because they hold the copyright of that image, and you have to pay!

It's not censorship they all bleat! Baaaaah! It's the rule of law.

 

Yes, but what will the actual mechanics of enforcing be if the site is on a server on the principality of Sealand and the site owner in a non eu country? Will they be able to make euro ISPs block the site if they do not comply?

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