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The Masked Tulip

Aunt Florence is coming a knocking - the end of the US East coast hurricane thread

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Well, we're bound to have one - a thread I mean.

This looks like it is going to become one of the nastier of the recent nasty US East Atlantic hurricanes.

Latest reports are that once it makes land-fall it will sit slightly inland dropping an enormous amount of water over several states over 4 - 5 days.

130mph winds. 13 foot high storm surges. 35cm of rain. What's that in proper measurements - about 14 inches.

Now they are worried about the nuclear plants. Half a dozen lie in its path.

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Yank media loves weather doom porn.  I have lost count of the number of times I've seen this sort of thing and then the week after it's all forgotten.

I'd wait until we see real cats and dogs flying past the camera.

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2 minutes ago, wherebee said:

Yank media loves weather doom porn.  I have lost count of the number of times I've seen this sort of thing and then the week after it's all forgotten.

I'd wait until we see real cats and dogs flying past the camera.

 

Yep, I was wondering this myself. The US TV networks love a hurricane, turn it into a major event and then, when it is just a big storm, everyone goes pah!

Time will tell.

They must be fervently working on ways to blame it all on Trump.

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Unusually high SST fueling this storm.

That said a category 4 hurricane has never made landfall this far north.

Very hard to predict its final impact.

The rain alone could be devastating.

Water not the wind is always the big killer with hurricanes.

https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/news/us-deaths-hurricanes-tropical-storms-nhc-study

Edited by Virgil Caine

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It looks as if it is going to go well into the US so, hopefully, it won't end up as a heavy storm raining on us next week.

At least we have the tech to see these things coming. Can you imagine what it would be like back before satellites and modern comms not knowing that this is heading towards you.

 

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10 minutes ago, wherebee said:

Yank media loves weather doom porn.  I have lost count of the number of times I've seen this sort of thing and then the week after it's all forgotten.

I'd wait until we see real cats and dogs flying past the camera.

Sure, but the last one in Houston got pretty messy for the locals after it had finished raining torrentially for a week, which seems to be the main worry, so they might not be exaggerating. Difficult to know.

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5 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

Sure, but the last one in Houston got pretty messy for the locals after it had finished raining torrentially for a week, which seems to be the main worry, so they might not be exaggerating. Difficult to know.

 

Large areas of the US has almost concrete-like earth. Water just does not drain into it but rather just runs along the top.

It is the main reason why people in tornado areas often do not have any basements to shelter into - the ground is too hard to dig into it. Odd today though as you would think modern diggers would be capable. Plus you would think they would make a basement statutory for any new builds. Capitalism and profit no doubt.

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26 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

Large areas of the US has almost concrete-like earth. Water just does not drain into it but rather just runs along the top.

It is the main reason why people in tornado areas often do not have any basements to shelter into - the ground is too hard to dig into it. Odd today though as you would think modern diggers would be capable. Plus you would think they would make a basement statutory for any new builds. Capitalism and profit no doubt.

You'd need breakers to get though rock and that would be very expensive and time consuming.  Risk here is not the size of the storm but location, as areas that don't usually experience such storms are not prepared or even experienced heavy rainfalls so the effect is somewhat unknown/untested. Decades of heavy storms in the normal landfall areas will at least ensure housing and population centres are kept away from the very worst of the local areas susceptible or prevention measures put in place - though these failed when levees broke in New Orleans.

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9 minutes ago, Happyhaddock said:

My son is in North Carolina at the moment, near charlotte. Were hoping it's not going to be too bad where he is as it's more inland :(

 

You might want to keep an eye on The Charlotte Observer website.

How is Hurricane Florence likely to affect Charlotte?

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article218127865.html

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2 hours ago, The Masked Tulip said:

It looks as if it is going to go well into the US so, hopefully, it won't end up as a heavy storm raining on us next week.

At least we have the tech to see these things coming. Can you imagine what it would be like back before satellites and modern comms not knowing that this is heading towards you.

 

3Smwn42g?format=jpg&name=600x314

That is a beautiful but terrifying photo, imagine the energy in that thing bearing down on you.

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2 hours ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

Large areas of the US has almost concrete-like earth. Water just does not drain into it but rather just runs along the top.

It is the main reason why people in tornado areas often do not have any basements to shelter into - the ground is too hard to dig into it. Odd today though as you would think modern diggers would be capable. Plus you would think they would make a basement statutory for any new builds. Capitalism and profit no doubt.

You would think that we could come up with a way of dispersing  a hurricane. I'm guessing that the amount of energy required to smooth out the temperature gradients would dwarf the recovery cost of the hurricane hitting (and adding more energy into the system might stir up bigger trouble down the line). 

You would think that they could at least lead the hurricane in a desired direction even if unable to fully dissipate it. 

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10 minutes ago, The Generation Game said:

You would think that we could come up with a way of dispersing  a hurricane. I'm guessing that the amount of energy required to smooth out the temperature gradients would dwarf the recovery cost of the hurricane hitting (and adding more energy into the system might stir up bigger trouble down the line). 

You would think that they could at least lead the hurricane in a desired direction even if unable to fully dissipate it. 

At risk of crossing threads, you could use the energy to demolish a couple of tower blocks..... allegedly.

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13 minutes ago, The Generation Game said:

You would think that we could come up with a way of dispersing  a hurricane. I'm guessing that the amount of energy required to smooth out the temperature gradients would dwarf the recovery cost of the hurricane hitting (and adding more energy into the system might stir up bigger trouble down the line). 

You would think that they could at least lead the hurricane in a desired direction even if unable to fully dissipate it. 

Hurricanes generate the energy of about 10,000 nuclear bombs in their lifetime if NASA is to be believed 

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Hurricanes

In reality dissipating heat from the equator to the polar regions is precisely what hurricanes do with some assistance from the Coriolis effect.

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4 hours ago, Virgil Caine said:

Hurricanes generate the energy of about 10,000 nuclear bombs in their lifetime if NASA is to be believed 

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Hurricanes

In reality dissipating heat from the equator to the polar regions is precisely what hurricanes do with some assistance from the Coriolis effect.

Ok so I guess we revert to backup plan. Evacuate and cleanup. 

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