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spygirl

Will noone think of the child tax credit?!

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7 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Sorry, but this is no laughing matter.

I have a mildly autistic son, and dealing with the health services is a nightmare - both when we lived in the UK, and here in France since our move. Autism is a decidedly "non sezy" illness and gets sod all funding already. This report sounds very much to me like "we'll save money by pretending that people are not ill".

Fuck that. Seriously: fuck that.

A highly-personal opinion: autistic kids desperately want love and affection; having both parents go out to work is really bad for them [1]. This is one area where tax credits really really helps. Personally, I reckon that our son has progressed far quicker with his mother being at home, than other autistic children who've been farmed out to be looked after all day by trained (and expensive) medical professionals.

[1] Incidentally, this is an opinion that I won't express in a meeting of autistic parents as it goes totally against the "a woman has the right to a career" mantra.

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3 minutes ago, DeepLurker said:

Sorry, but this is no laughing matter.

I have a mildly autistic son, and dealing with the health services is a nightmare - both when we lived in the UK, and here in France since our move. Autism is a decidedly "non sezy" illness and gets sod all funding already. This report sounds very much to me like "we'll save money by pretending that people are not ill".

Fuck that. Seriously: fuck that.

A highly-personal opinion: autistic kids desperately want love and affection; having both parents go out to work is really bad for them [1]. This is one area where tax credits really really helps. Personally, I reckon that our son has progressed far quicker with his mother being at home, than other autistic children who've been farmed out to be looked after all day by trained (and expensive) medical professionals.

[1] Incidentally, this is an opinion that I won't express in a meeting of autistic parents as it goes totally against the "a woman has the right to a career" mantra.

I think you should express your opinion

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6 minutes ago, DeepLurker said:

Sorry, but this is no laughing matter.

I have a mildly autistic son, and dealing with the health services is a nightmare - both when we lived in the UK, and here in France since our move. Autism is a decidedly "non sezy" illness and gets sod all funding already. This report sounds very much to me like "we'll save money by pretending that people are not ill".

Fuck that. Seriously: fuck that.

A highly-personal opinion: autistic kids desperately want love and affection; having both parents go out to work is really bad for them [1]. This is one area where tax credits really really helps. Personally, I reckon that our son has progressed far quicker with his mother being at home, than other autistic children who've been farmed out to be looked after all day by trained (and expensive) medical professionals.

[1] Incidentally, this is an opinion that I won't express in a meeting of autistic parents as it goes totally against the "a woman has the right to a career" mantra.

Something exists. 

Oartner used to work at a special.

Autism is used a a catch all term fotpr not tight in the head. Its used for kids who are pretty much non responsive. And its used fior kids who are just non socialised cunts.

By making autism adhd one of Browns kerching thing, the autism services at all hospitals have been overwhelmed by parents taking in their cuntish kids to get assessed for that extra 100/m payout.

Its even spread to EEers whove cottoned on that they claim a kid not geing good at speaking english is a tick box. Obvioulsy the heath worker has no idea how good the kid can soeak polush, czech, lithunian etc. All assesed on english verbal skills. Nuts.

This live and care you are describing does not sound like autism. It sounds like a kid who does not respond well to change. Taking the kid between dufferent countries /languages is not helpful.

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My missus is a TA in a specialist autism school, and occasionally they get a badly behaved kid that manages to slip in, but most are full on autistic. She reakons that all the lazy feckless parents who are incapable of disaplining the kids are clogging the system for the ones with real needs.

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1 minute ago, Reebo said:

My missus is a TA in a specialist autism school, and occasionally they get a badly behaved kid that manages to slip in, but most are full on autistic. She reakons that all the lazy feckless parents who are incapable of disaplining the kids are clogging the system for the ones with real needs.

Of the ones partner saw, about 20% were on the dcale. 80% were cunts whos parents were scamming for more free money.

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1 minute ago, Reebo said:

My missus is a TA in a specialist autism school, and occasionally they get a badly behaved kid that manages to slip in, but most are full on autistic. She reakons that all the lazy feckless parents who are incapable of disaplining the kids are clogging the system for the ones with real needs.

But, but it's not the parents job to er, parent children.  It's the teachers job. Innit. 

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14 minutes ago, One percent said:

But, but it's not the parents job to er, parent children.  It's the teachers job. Innit. 

Its not even the parents job to potty train kids. 20% them up and shit themselves.

Ive pointed out to my partners that yhe useless parents are being paid more then they earn to not bring up their kids.

Not bring able use toilet is a autism adhd tick box. So theydont teach them. Eurodisney here we come.

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2 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Its not even the parents job to potty train kids. 20% them up and shit themselves.

Ive pointed out to my partners that yhe useless parents are being paid more then they earn to not bring up their kids.

Not bring able use toilet is a autism adhd tick box. So theydont teach them. Eurodisney here we come.

A mate of mine is a reception teacher. Main stream, not special.  A number of kids turn up not potty trained. "Oh, you can do that" is parents response when challenged on it. 

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I have a nephew diagnosed as on the autistic spectrum at about 4, I'm no expert but even I can see he isn't just a "naughty child", from around the age of 2 you could see he wasn't neuro-typical but I think they delay giving a diagnosis to see whether it's simply delayed development but also to determine where on the spectrum they are as it impacts the support they need. 

My sister in law works when he is at school, she works for herself so can obviously manage her own hours and doesn't get tax credits, but I don't see why school age children's parents can't work even if it's part time.

I think the trend to let the school do everything permeates up the education system, on another thread I said that we have to acknowledge that schools teach to the test, if you want a rounded, really educated child, as parents we need to take on that responsibility.

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3 hours ago, spygirl said:

Something exists. 

Oartner used to work at a special.

Autism is used a a catch all term fotpr not tight in the head. Its used for kids who are pretty much non responsive. And its used fior kids who are just non socialised cunts.

By making autism adhd one of Browns kerching thing, the autism services at all hospitals have been overwhelmed by parents taking in their cuntish kids to get assessed for that extra 100/m payout.

I agree that "autism" and "adhd" are abused by scammers. It's a bit like back pain, which can be incredibly debilitating, but it is very hard to diagnose, and so is a favourite with benny scammers.

3 hours ago, spygirl said:

Its even spread to EEers whove cottoned on that they claim a kid not geing good at speaking english is a tick box. Obvioulsy the heath worker has no idea how good the kid can soeak polush, czech, lithunian etc. All assesed on english verbal skills. Nuts.

I was astonished at how the Dr who diagnosed our kid reached his conclusion. Very little interaction with junior or with me, but loads of questions for his mum. The procedure seemed ripe for abuse, or even "Munchausen by proxy" madness.

3 hours ago, spygirl said:

This live and care you are describing does not sound like autism. It sounds like a kid who does not respond well to change. Taking the kid between dufferent countries /languages is not helpful.

Moving a kid with autism to a different country was not a great thing to do... but we used to live in London, and a move away was always on the cards simply due to the cost of housing. When junior was diagnosed and we decided that either my wife or myself would stop work, then living in the UK became simply impossible.

It comes back to the price of housing; I believe that there's a website somewhere that covers this subject ;)

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4 hours ago, Hopeful said:

I think you should express your opinion

Not possible.

It's a bit like the endless threads on this forum about Islam and posters complaining "if I said these things in work or on Facebook, I'd get slaughtered".

Well parents of autistic kids are just normal people. And like most people, they hate being told that they've royally fucked up. Telling them that their focus on their "career" might well have contributed to their kid's condition, well, they'll go fucking mental at you.

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22 minutes ago, DeepLurker said:

Not possible.

It's a bit like the endless threads on this forum about Islam and posters complaining "if I said these things in work or on Facebook, I'd get slaughtered".

Well parents of autistic kids are just normal people. And like most people, they hate being told that they've royally fucked up. Telling them that their focus on their "career" might well have contributed to their kid's condition, well, they'll go fucking mental at you.

I have people going mental at me all the time, not a bad thing, they'll be a load who are silent that will be in agreement. Staying silent doesn't get us anywhere.

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20 minutes ago, Hopeful said:

I have people going mental at me all the time, not a bad thing, they'll be a load who are silent that will be in agreement. Staying silent doesn't get us anywhere.

True. But I can't fight a war on 2 fronts.

I focus on things where I think I can make a difference without running into too many brick walls. Got to be practical.

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7 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

 

Every kid is Forrest Gump these days - as the more of them a primary school has, the more "special-needs" funding they get. Over 60% are some kind of mong or spaz if you believe the lies spewed-out by one of my local primary schools. That's an awful lot of managers and estate-agents to employ fifteen years from now...!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, The XYY Man said:

OK, here we go...

Every kid is Forrest Gump these days - as the more of them a primary school has, the more "special-needs" funding they get. Over 60% are some kind of mong or spaz if you believe the lies spewed-out by one of my local primary schools. That's an awful lot of managers and estate-agents to employ fifteen years from now...!

Such bull-shit is needed to pay for all the women employed looking after other people's bairns as "teaching-assistants" - instead of them being at home looking after their own.

The only teaching-assistant ever needed during my time at school was a three-foot piece of bamboo.

Don't care how much you all squeal about what I'm saying here - the "nuclear family" might not have been perfect, but the festering stack of shit that has replaced it is the cause of many of these lost and confused kids ending-up popping happy-pills at the behest of some doctor/social-worker/school axis of evil.

The social experiment has failed.

And it is high-time as a society that we wise the fuck up and admit it.

While we still have the opportunity to correct it...

 

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You jest but when a kids get diagnosed as 'on the spectrum' he or she pretty much gets shoved in the corner.

If I did have kids that were a bit on the spectrum theres no way Id get them diagnosed as its guaranteed to to deny them any form of education.

 

60% is about right in some places. I get waves of '<heart> autism' and 'everyone is special' crap o nthe FB pages.

Go back 5 years and these stupid bints were trying to raise charitee funds for little Callums fucking motorbike helmet to cure his horrible distorted skull.

Give them a few years, and there'll be more hidden disability posts - normally fibrymlsia. whaetever.

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4 hours ago, sarahbell said:

so what causes it?

The short answer is: no one really knows.

There's loads of factors that seem to increase the risk of a kid being autistic. One of the parents being autistic is one of the few proven indicators (now that I know the signs, I have autistic traits, and so does my dad, and so does my grandad). There's lots of alt-science stuff about vaccines causing autism, which IMPO is crap. Various heavy metals have been blamed. Lack of affection from parents has been been blamed. I have my own theory about "absent parents" which I keep to myself.

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6 minutes ago, DeepLurker said:

The short answer is: no one really knows.

There's loads of factors that seem to increase the risk of a kid being autistic. One of the parents being autistic is one of the few proven indicators (now that I know the signs, I have autistic traits, and so does my dad, and so does my grandad). There's lots of alt-science stuff about vaccines causing autism, which IMPO is crap. Various heavy metals have been blamed. Lack of affection from parents has been been blamed. I have my own theory about "absent parents" which I keep to myself.

Auyism, in some forms, seems to be extreme introversion. A lot would be fixed by getting kids socialised.

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I think it depends on the level of Autism. My nephew doesn't appear to be shoved in a corner at school but I'd say he is at the mild end of the spectrum. I think there is a genetic component, it does appear to run in families.

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