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The effect of new HMO licencing?

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Just seen Spunkos comments about new threads so though I would start one.

So my understanding is that from October ALL landlords that have a houseshare with more than two families irregardless of how many floors HAVE to have a license irregardless of local housing/councils view point....how do people think its going to change the market I.e. amateur LLs giving up on houseshares?, LL putting up costs straight away?, conversion of houses where every room bar the bathroom/kitchen being converted back to family homes and then rented?..and then we have the whole Brexit issue where whatever way it goes it is bound to have an effect on demand either through enforced restrictions, sentiment of those that feel they may not be welcome,  or perception of present/prospective investors (btl LLs).

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It’s up to councils to enforce. They can’t be bothered. 

In reality all councils should run their own register and force all landlords to register. Charge a nice fat annual fee. Cut a deal with HMRC whereby they get a share of any money recovered from tax dodgers, and it could and should be a money spinner for them. Beats me as to why they don’t do it. 

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well the more people they force out of it the bigger problem they create for themselves ironicly,yes the council would like the cash for the pensions but do they need a longer list to rehome.no doubt many of us like to see landlords squeezed for cash but once they have had enough off them theres a good chance they will look at other sources of income and that will be owner ocupiers,moterists or general taxation,or maybe another raid on your pensions.

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3 hours ago, Castlevania said:

It’s up to councils to enforce. They can’t be bothered. 

In reality all councils should run their own register and force all landlords to register. Charge a nice fat annual fee. Cut a deal with HMRC whereby they get a share of any money recovered from tax dodgers, and it could and should be a money spinner for them. Beats me as to why they don’t do it. 

Because:

many tory and labour councillors are connected to mass landlord families/businesses and have a vested interest

for labour councillors decreasing HMOs in their ward will decrease their votes so they have a vested interest

taking money to set up a department to enforce costs money in this years budget, hitting their performance targets, so the management have a vested interest

the proceeds generally won't come through for years, which means the councillors may not be in power, so they have no vested interest...

 

etc etc etc

 

get it yet?

 

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All they have done is target the 5 bed houses. Any house with over 5 persons had to be HMO anyway.  4 persons is still exempt. All that will happen is the house shares will drop to 4 persons, the council get nothing and the number of beds in the town drops by 20% ( of the orignally 5 bed houses), genius, but what would you expect from the council.

 

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7 minutes ago, wherebee said:

for labour councillors decreasing HMOs in their ward will decrease their votes so they have a vested interest

taking money to set up a department to enforce costs money in this years budget, hitting their performance targets, so the management have a vested interest

 

Most of the smaller HMOS are student places shares. The council want the students out of their town and in ready made villages. Then they can charge a family the council tax for the property as students are exempt. Its discrimination, students arent welcome in a town, different rules for them, imagine the uproar if you said, you have to live in dedicated accomodation if it was because you were black.

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