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The Masked Tulip

Islamification of Europe

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The idea that you have thought about this because it is the reality of Islam, means, that Islam, by default, is divisive in its nature. Islamists cannot live together in peace.

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4 minutes ago, OurDayWillCome said:

Anyone got the Muslim population percentages across the world and the associated terroism that comes with increasing percentages? Always loved that post and it would be great to see it on the first page of this thread.

This one?

https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/muslim-behavior-with-population-increase/

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I think I finished off looking at the Libya situation and how Blair and others (another poster mentioned French guy) fundamental in stitching up Libya and breaking down the buffer zone between islamic extremists and europe.

11 things you didn't know about Libya - kind of astounding - setting up farms for those who wished to, housing, services, very progressive and potentially very good for the inhabitants of the country at the time. 

http://www.brilliantnews.com/11-things-you-didnt-know-about-libya-under-gaddafis-dictatorship/4/

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I just redpilled (or is it greenpilled on Islam) a mate. The day before the Westminister attack he was berating me for some of the things I have said re birth rates, blasphemy charges, rotherham, etc.  I sent him the link to the gvt report on rotherham and just said that with two teenage daughters in the UK, he needed to read it.

I sent him the link the day before the attacks in London.

He's now sending me some pretty strong texts about how he feels about faith schools etc.  Almost a 180 degree turnaround.

 

We'll win the battle of minds one mind at a time.

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27 minutes ago, wherebee said:

I just redpilled (or is it greenpilled on Islam) a mate. The day before the Westminister attack he was berating me for some of the things I have said re birth rates, blasphemy charges, rotherham, etc.  I sent him the link to the gvt report on rotherham and just said that with two teenage daughters in the UK, he needed to read it.

I sent him the link the day before the attacks in London.

He's now sending me some pretty strong texts about how he feels about faith schools etc.  Almost a 180 degree turnaround.

 

We'll win the battle of minds one mind at a time.

My proper "red pilling" began about 6 months ago or so, it all started with me seeing the acronym "SJW" on the forum at the other place.

I looked up SJW online and what I found (youtube videos of brainwashed leftists, communists and other people seeking the destruction of our civilisation basically) caused me to go thtrough a similar kinda 180 degree turnaround to that your friend went through.

It's not as though I was a rabid lefty or an activist but I was I suppose quite left wing in many of my thoughts regarding borders and the different peoples of the world. Quite of large chunk of my political belief has changed over the last 6 months, some opinions and beliefs have stayed the same but lots has changed in my worldview.

I can now see that my political beliefs were in fact useful things for me to believe as they helped ease my conscience about the way I lived and treated people. I am still a nightmare but I now realise it and I'm now so much closer to the truth than I was before. I have been red pilled for years with many of the worlds issues but with some I was blind.

I'm a much better person than I was and that's thanks to the free speech we have (or used to have at the other place). Free speech is just too important for us to risk for anything, let alone for this mad experiment of multiculturism.

Anyway, this was the thread that had me over at the other place, the one that was urgently needed, I can't believe they took it down instead of just deleting the violence inciting posts, if that's what happened anyway.

God, this submitting posts thing is a bit scary, I don't want to sit and pore over each post but also don't want to send shitty, awkwardly worded, insane sounding, boring posts either. Just gonna hit submit reply button...

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I am a strong believer in human rights and I hope to be until the day I die, although as I get older I am definitely more right wing than I thought I'd ever be*. I believe strongly that someone should be free to follow a religion of their choosing without discrimination. However I believe there is a hard limit, the limit being one person exercising their human rights cannot prevent another from exercising their human rights. I.e. I will actively fight for someone to be able to practise their religion, however if under the name of their religion someone starts oppressing woman or homosexuals I would draw the line and actively fight for woman's and homosexual's rights.

I do not understand why the British left wing seem to embrace and promote fundamentalist Islam even at the expense of more moderate forms of Islam. There does appear to be a rise on fundamentalist Islam I suspect promoted by Saudi oil wealth and in my opinion this brand of Islam seems to be dominating the agenda. When I grew up there were a few muslim children at my school. They seemed to be normal children who were very well intrgrated. None of the female students wore head scarves and all the children took part in sex education and PE lessons. I know that at the same school 20 years later this isn't the case. Female students are wearing head scarves and are not partaking in all lessons. To me there seems to be big change in what it means to be a muslim in the UK.

 

*Now I'm getting towards middle age I've realised that I'm a middle class tosser who works in the public sector, drives a shit sensible car and plays squash twice a week. I often ask myself when did I become such a cunt.

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Well I used to work with a Turkish guy for two years. I never spoke to him about religion. He certainly wasn't a "five a day nodder",and he always thought people should just "get on". So I liked him. He might have been a Christian for all I know, but I don't think he was. I've just recited a completely irrelevant anecdote again.B|

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3 minutes ago, assetrichcashpoor said:

I am a strong believer in human rights and I hope to be until the day I die, although as I get older I am definitely more right wing than I thought I'd ever be*. I believe strongly that someone should be free to follow a religion of their choosing without discrimination. However I believe there is a hard limit, the limit being one person exercising their human rights cannot prevent another from exercising their human rights........

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*Now I'm getting towards middle age I've realised that I'm a middle class tosser who works in the public sector, drives a shit sensible car and plays squash twice a week. I often ask myself when did I become such a cunt.

Yip, only real rules are to not cause harm, loss or injury to another.

I'm (waaaaay) more right wing than I ever thought I would be too.

It comes down to individual issues though, not just left and right, I may be "left wing" on some and "right wing" on others, I don't want to put myself in any boxes, individual views on individual issues. I reckon there are more than just left and right, at the very least there's up and down too!

*Now I'm actually middle aged and have things I care about I realise what an immature, layabout, dreamer and idiot I was for all those years.

 

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When you remember to forget what is "left" and "right" you will end up in a supermarket with the wrong slippers on, wearing a crash helmet.You won't get the right change! I have spoken!

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14 minutes ago, MrPin said:

Well I used to work with a Turkish guy for two years. I never spoke to him about religion. He certainly wasn't a "five a day nodder",and he always thought people should just "get on". So I liked him. He might have been a Christian for all I know, but I don't think he was. I've just recited a completely irrelevant anecdote again.B|

I mentioned not he other thread that I have had Turkish friends from a long time ago - my age group, growing up in a secular environment but muslim themselves. Turkey was pretty open and safe both for the bulk of the population (bar Kurdish tensions) and foreigners. It is frightening the way Turkey is currently changing and I believe another big warning to any who fail to recognise the elephant in the room.

 

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1 hour ago, wherebee said:

We'll win the battle of minds one mind at a time.

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

 

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3 hours ago, onlyme said:

I mentioned not he other thread that I have had Turkish friends from a long time ago - my age group, growing up in a secular environment but muslim themselves. Turkey was pretty open and safe both for the bulk of the population (bar Kurdish tensions) and foreigners. It is frightening the way Turkey is currently changing and I believe another big warning to any who fail to recognise the elephant in the room.

 

Indeed and my Turkish chum don't like it. He has British residence now. He only goes back for Christmas.

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3 hours ago, Carl Fimble said:

Yip, only real rules are to not cause harm, loss or injury to another.

I'm (waaaaay) more right wing than I ever thought I would be too.

It comes down to individual issues though, not just left and right, I may be "left wing" on some and "right wing" on others, I don't want to put myself in any boxes, individual views on individual issues. I reckon there are more than just left and right, at the very least there's up and down too!

*Now I'm actually middle aged and have things I care about I realise what an immature, layabout, dreamer and idiot I was for all those years.

 

This left/ right thing is a misnomer today.  If we look back at the roots of the Labour Party it shows how things were and how they are now.

the labour movement grew out of ordinary people pushing back against the state and the elite. Look at pictures such as these:

 

Then consider novels such as 'the great gatsby' which portrayed how the rich and entitled lived.

the working class pushed back.  It was called socialism. From this grew trade unions, the cooperative movement and such like.  From this grew the Labour Party. Then eventually labour governments.

the greatest achievement of the Labour Party was the welfare state and the NHS.

sadly, over the last thirty years we have witnessed a pushing back by the establishment and an entrenchment of working rights.  The welfare state and NHS have been twisted into tools of control and money making and bear no resemblance to what they were originally conceived as. 

In the above we can clearly see a left (working class pushing together to change things for the better) and the right (rich and entitled holdingbon to what they perceive to be rightfully theirs). The right is still with us but sadly not the left.

the left has morphed into some weird ideological position whereby it appears to hate thosebit once represented. Instead it would rather fight on behalf of the disadvantaged half way across the world with whom it has no relationship. It's all just vanity projects and virtue signalling for individuals who are both greedy and vacuous.  

Ordinary people like all of us on here, who do not have access to independent means and so thus have to sell their labour have been completely sold out.  There is no one out their to represent us, neither the so-called left or the right, who have their own and a different agenda.

as I keep arguning, there is no left and right in the way that this has been traditionally understood. What there is is an us and them. The global elite and establishment against the rest. Don't be fooled by any of these snake oil salesmen when they say that they represent you.  They don't.  

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