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Old Concrete Garages


201p

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Just looking at these circa 1960s (?) garages out of curiosity, I believe these could be bonded asbestos roofs (but not sure). They maybe not of course, is there an easy way to see? They ask the buyer to dismantle and collect themselves, but is the buyer aware that they could be handling this stuff without proper protective equipment?! 

1. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LARGE-CONCRETE-SECTIONAL-BUILDING-GARAGE/332825777838?hash=item4d7df656ae:g:IhQAAOSwrqBbshih:rk:9:pf:0

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2. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prefabricated-Concrete-Garage-Very-Large/142975241145?hash=item2149fd0bb9:g:BxsAAOSwDOpbw4e9:rk:13:pf:0

I've seen someone listing a fixed price cost to have one of these taken away, if you want to get rid https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asbestos-Garage-removal-Essex-Concrete-garage-removal-Essex-Asbestos-Removal/113280108757?hash=item1a600548d5:g:k5YAAOSw7L1Z2kV5

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Looks like asbestos to me.  Mostly safe enough so long as nothing breaks.  I'd dismantle it myself, if there was a good reason, but I'd do it in the rain and I wouldn't carry the bits in my car...

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Local councils often take the roofs and advise on dismantling precautions. Its the 'least bad' type of asbestos (white iirc, yellow and blue are worse).

Iirc I dismantled my roof when wet (sprayed reguarly) in disposable overalls with a mask. Triple wrapped and taped up in thick DPM and took it to the tip - had to pre-book that part and take someone else as they won't help you. Total weight of the roof was 250kg.

The walls are just concrete, smash and skip.

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As long as you don't have to drill it, cut it or otherwise expose the fibres / create dust you should be ok. 

That said, it is extremely hazardous and you need to make sure the mask you are using is rated and fitted correctly. Even better, use a disposable overall and bin it afterwards. 

The truth is that most buildings built before 1999 may have asbestos in some element of their materials, it even used to be mixed into concrete so a lot of the time you can't tell it's there unless you lab test it. 

Frequent exposure to it will certainly give you asbestosis, but a one off job is fairly unlikely to result in serious health problems if you wear PPE and handle it correctly.

The scandalous thing is that the construction industry pays so much less attention to the risks of silicosis, when most builders will breathe in plasterboard and cement dust day after day (often between fag breaks...).

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Do you not think the panic around abestos is a bit mad?  Yes, repeated exposure gives you a likelihood of asbestosis, but if you did one job, once, wouldn't it be the same risk as getting the tube in London to work every day and breathing that shite in?

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5 minutes ago, wherebee said:

Do you not think the panic around abestos is a bit mad?  Yes, repeated exposure gives you a likelihood of asbestosis, but if you did one job, once, wouldn't it be the same risk as getting the tube in London to work every day and breathing that shite in?

it is an interesting point.  There's asbestos all over the place -- if you were breathing before the 1980s, doubly so.  Probably every educational establishment I was in as a child was filled with the stuff, and employer premises probably weren't much better before I started working in new build places around 2000 (and they'll just kill with a heart attack from stress as a result of working in open plan offices).  All the brake dust up to the 90's was filled with it, and thus blowing a little in the breeze through all cities.  The list goes on.  Even now, how could you tell if the transit you've just hired to move home was moving asbestos to the dump last week, or if the neighbours upwind have decided to take out the old boiler and have shoved the strange dust that blew out of it into an old shopping bag in the garden and it's currently dissipating slowly in the breeze.

Malcom McLaren said that he'd got terminal cancer from taking down an artex ceiling 30 years before -- you just don't know and it is certainly possible, but it's likely that he had 10x the asbestos exposure just from living in London for years.

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1 hour ago, wherebee said:

Do you not think the panic around abestos is a bit mad?  Yes, repeated exposure gives you a likelihood of asbestosis, but if you did one job, once, wouldn't it be the same risk as getting the tube in London to work every day and breathing that shite in?

As far as Asbestosis goes yes. However the picture is less certain for Mesothelioma. 

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4 hours ago, 201p said:

Just looking at these circa 1960s (?) garages out of curiosity, I believe these could be bonded asbestos roofs (but not sure). They maybe not of course, is there an easy way to see? They ask the buyer to dismantle and collect themselves, but is the buyer aware that they could be handling this stuff without proper protective equipment?! 

1. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LARGE-CONCRETE-SECTIONAL-BUILDING-GARAGE/332825777838?hash=item4d7df656ae:g:IhQAAOSwrqBbshih:rk:9:pf:0

s-l1600.jpg

 

2. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prefabricated-Concrete-Garage-Very-Large/142975241145?hash=item2149fd0bb9:g:BxsAAOSwDOpbw4e9:rk:13:pf:0

I've seen someone listing a fixed price cost to have one of these taken away, if you want to get rid https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asbestos-Garage-removal-Essex-Concrete-garage-removal-Essex-Asbestos-Removal/113280108757?hash=item1a600548d5:g:k5YAAOSw7L1Z2kV5

If you going to do it as a DIY job in vest in the following

Some FFP3 facemasks

Disposable paper suits

bolt croppers to cut the bolts

Loads of wall paper paste - cake the the sheet in that - the paste will trap any lose fibres. 

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MIL had that stuff on garage roof.
Tip told her they'd accept it double wrapped. Got some good plastic and wrapped it up into nice clean parcels. Took it tip. Put it in skip with other stuff in crappy bin bags all ripped and exposed. Bloke was amazing how much care had been taken by them to wrap the stuff up as normally it's in the shitty bin bags that shred.

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Chewing Grass

You can get a specialist paint/sealant kit made by Kingfisher for £100 that refurbishes the asbestos roofing sheets by encapslating the surface and waterproofing them.

A cheap way to extend the life of the roof and put off the disposal day.

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Did you know plumbers and electricians are amongst (or indeed) the most high risk jobs for getting asbestosis in the UK?  All that drilling and crawling around confined spaces, plus a lot of the older equipment (electrical boxes, tank insulation, etc) contain asbestos.  The risk differs significantly depending on type, etc.  Did you also know there are some web sites which will tell you if your equipment (e.g. storage heater) contains it.  I learnt loads after my first house renovation, even got offered a job (but then maybe not many takers)!  Wish I had learnt a bit more before I started though! 

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