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I'm Surprised Halloween hasn't been banned yet

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https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/our-region/portsmouth/poundland-slammed-for-selling-toy-knives-aimed-at-kids-for-halloween-1-8647055

Poundland slammed for selling toy knives aimed at kids for Halloween

‘It is not a toy even if it is plastic. It is also in the face of people who have lost their children to knife crime.

 

---Not just the fake knives, axes, and chainsaws. But the whole idea about dressing up as ghosts, ghouls and monsters. It could upset someone.

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7 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Anti-Christian isn't it?

In future all Halloween costumes will be of Jesus, priests, nuns, women not wearing burqas, masculine men and women who are not clinically obese.

And definitely not djinn. Because djinn are real, and to imitate one might provoke a djinn into turning up. Mashallah.

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Halloween is just another consumerism date in the dairy!

I’m 60 now but recall from my childhood making a dressing up costume myself from what was available, carving a turnip lantern and practising a song, rhyme or joke to deliver to get some monkey nuts, a piece of fruit......and really good fun in the community. Also at girl guides dooking for apples, dressing up, singing etc. Fond memories.

When my own children were in that phase I noticed change creeping up. It’s full on now. Halloween decorations, costumes and “special” packs of fruit, sweets etc. FFS, it’s like a new Christmas!

I know someone who changes their chimney flag frequently and the Halloween is flying now and the garden decorated with suitable purchased Halloween stuff.

 

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1 minute ago, Van Lady said:

Halloween is just another consumerism date in the dairy!

I’m 60 now but recall from my childhood making a dressing up costume myself from what was available, carving a turnip lantern and practising a song, rhyme or joke to deliver to get some monkey nuts, a piece of fruit......and really good fun in the community. Also at girl guides dooking for apples, dressing up, singing etc. Fond memories.

When my own children were in that phase I noticed change creeping up. It’s full on now. Halloween decorations, costumes and “special” packs of fruit, sweets etc. FFS, it’s like a new Christmas!

I know someone who changes their chimney flag frequently and the Halloween is flying now and the garden decorated with suitable purchased Halloween stuff.

 

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It used to be in or treat and that was about it for me. Then it got all Americanised. 

Turnip lanterns (pumpkins are another Americanism) were for bonfire night. 

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18 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Anti-Christian isn't it?

In future all Halloween costumes will be of Jesus, priests, nuns, women not wearing burqas, masculine men and women who are not clinically obese.

I think you'll find that Christians don't give two hoots about what people do on Halloween.

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5 minutes ago, dgul said:

I think you'll find that Christians don't give two hoots about what people do on Halloween.

 

My point was that because it is anti-Christian then it will be welcomed by the usual suspects who appear to use every opportunity to knock Christianity - it seems to be the agenda of so many. They will tolerate it as long as it focuses on being an anti-Christian thing. If it ever began to ridicule a certain other religion with evil people in black head to toe sheets or blokes walking around dressed an an 8th Century warlord then I imagine that there would be cries to ban it.

Should have made myself clearer.

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3 minutes ago, One percent said:

It used to be in or treat and that was about it for me. Then it got all Americanised. 

Turnip lanterns (pumpkins are another Americanism) were for bonfire night. 

I agree it’s Americanised. Market it successfully and they will buy!

While I don’t have any Xmas decorations I do enjoy going a dog walk around town to observe the competitiveness of outdoor Xmas displays.

It’s getting worthwhile to do it at Halloween time these days!

Personally I’d like to see some gardens at bonfire night time with politician “guys” hanging in them and all ready to be burnt. 

Is there an opening market for bonfire night general household decoration tat. Maybe, but perhaps I’m extreme in wanting to see political effigys hanging then burning. :ph34r:

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4 minutes ago, dgul said:

I think you'll find that Christians don't give two hoots about what people do on Halloween.

I recall in the US some fundamentalist Christians don't like Halloween. There was one case where a church organised a fancy dress ball for its youth but made it a rule that they could only come dressed as characters from the Bible. So of course they came in horrific costumes of characters like Satan, Goliath, the Serpent from the garden of Eden, etc.

I quite like the  eastern European, Catholic version of Halloween, which is All Soul's, when families have candlelit picnics in cemeteries by the graves of loved ones. They tend to think the Protestant, American 'Holloween' stuff is all rather odd. 

The Anglican compromise is usually an evening service of remembrance of the faithful departed, which can be quite moving if done well. 

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My boys have toy axes, swords, thors hammer, light sabers, cap guns, nerf guns, bow & arrows and a fart gun.

Just like boys their age should have.

Oh, and they are wearing scream masks this year when I take them trick or treating.

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57 minutes ago, 201p said:

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/our-region/portsmouth/poundland-slammed-for-selling-toy-knives-aimed-at-kids-for-halloween-1-8647055

Poundland slammed for selling toy knives aimed at kids for Halloween

‘It is not a toy even if it is plastic. It is also in the face of people who have lost their children to knife crime.

 

---Not just the fake knives, axes, and chainsaws. But the whole idea about dressing up as ghosts, ghouls and monsters. It could upset someone.

Yup. All those serial killers must be well pissed off with the appropriation of their culture...

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43 minutes ago, dgul said:

I think you'll find that Christians don't give two hoots about what people do on Halloween.

My god-bothering neighbour used to get all upset about it being pagan etc. Christians definitely don't like it.

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14 minutes ago, snaga said:

My boys have toy axes, swords, thors hammer, light sabers, cap guns, nerf guns, bow & arrows and a fart gun.

Just like boys their age should have.

My ex decided no weapons and things for our boy and bought him fairly neutral toys. Useless though as he found a bit of wood and ran round making gun noises. She gave up at that point.

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9 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

My god-bothering neighbour used to get all upset about it being pagan etc. Christians definitely don't like it.

Nah, the median Christian doesn't care.  Just the odd sect (Jehovah Witnesses* deplore it, for example).

[* although their Christian status isn't agreed by, well, anyone else -- they do believe in Jesus, so I'll put them in the Christian pile, albeit the tiny Unitarian sub-pile]

Edited by dgul

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It's not only Poundland I've seen them in at least one other major outlet.

I seem to remember soft plastic axes and swords in the past but I think the large plastic stabby knives is a new thing and when I first saw them I had to look twice.  I think it's down to desperation to sell as much as possible and if they have a surplus of whatever they'll daub some bits of red paint on it along with painted cobweb and try to shift it at Halloween.

Apart from that it's things like that (large stabby knives for the kids) that can get events banned these days (or at least financialised for TPTB's extra profit and benefit and taken under the authorities wing like corporate pay for entry and council tax funded fireworks displays on Guy Fawkes day etc etc) and so in conspiracy mode maybe that's what they're headed towards.

Edited by twocents

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2 hours ago, Austin Allegro said:

I recall in the US some fundamentalist Christians don't like Halloween. There was one case where a church organised a fancy dress ball for its youth but made it a rule that they could only come dressed as characters from the Bible. So of course they came in horrific costumes of characters like Satan, Goliath, the Serpent from the garden of Eden, etc.

I quite like the  eastern European, Catholic version of Halloween, which is All Soul's, when families have candlelit picnics in cemeteries by the graves of loved ones. They tend to think the Protestant, American 'Holloween' stuff is all rather odd. 

The Anglican compromise is usually an evening service of remembrance of the faithful departed, which can be quite moving if done well. 

pesky christians delibratly puting there big feast dates next to far older pagan festivals.

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58 minutes ago, Bricks & Mortar said:

And a few extra fingers to start with...

But no.  This is the 21st Century.  22mm flat bit on a battery drill for the hollowing. 

Good name for a horror movie "The Hollowing".

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5 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

Take his point about JP and BS but I'm curious as to why he believes he knows what a cat is thinking.

Nobody knows.

Cats are always thinking how to rule the world, everyone knows that.

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