• Welcome to DOSBODS

    Please consider creating a free account to be able to access all the features of the DOSBODS community. It only takes 20 seconds!

DTMark

Bye, UKIP

Recommended Posts

Patrick Flynn leaves.

SINCE Gerard Batten became UKIP leader I have tried to use my influence to persuade him to maintain his focus on Brexit and abandon an apparent and growing fixation with Tommy Robinson.

.. that would have enabled us to pile real and meaningful pressure on those parties, especially the Conservatives.

Instead, at this vital stage of the battle for Brexit, he has done the opposite, appointing Robinson as his policy adviser and announcing a plan for UKIP to be centrally involved in a mass demonstration being planned by Robinson on the issue of Brexit. This is despite the last two street demonstrations attended by Gerard ending up with some demonstrators engaging in very ugly scenes.

http://patrickoflynn.co.uk/

Bye, UKIP.

(If you get a 508 error, try it again - I think he needs to pay the hosting company a few quid more)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, This Time said:

Who's Patrick Flynn?

There's a picture of him on the website if you can get it to load. It appears very busy.

He's not the issue. Bringing Robinson on board is the end of UKIP.

If what he says is true (quoted above) then UKIP is no longer a Thing. It is dead.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd not heard of him before and his brief wiki suggests he's maybe not the most balanced of people and was already a spent force; how many times can you step down?
 

Quote

 

After the disappointing election result he called UKIP leader Nigel Farage "snarling, thin-skinned and aggressive".[4]

He was the running-mate for Lisa Duffy in the 2016 UKIP leadership election.[citation needed]

He left the UKIP Frontbench in July 2017 believing the party no longer supported his centrist economic policies

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_O'Flynn

He reminds me of that Armstring and Miller Children's Hour joke:

"That was a song from Bernard Butler.  Originally he was the guitarist in Suede, then in MacAlmont and Butler, and now he's a solo artist.  Which makes you think that he's probably not the easiest of persons to get on with."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's probably correct that it will be impossible or at the least very difficult to make progress in the mainstream with TR in the mix. I would credit TR with having evolved since his early days of activism, but most people won't, and it makes the job of the MSM (targeting and discrediting non-globalist parties) all too easy.

Edited by swiss_democracy_for_all

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

SDP? Social Democratic Party? I did not think that there is a UK political party called the SDP - what are its 5 main policies?

Or does he mean that he has joined the broad European Parliament political consensus of Social Democrats? Odd for a UKIP politician. What political views does this man hold and do they change as often as the wind turns?

Most British people cannot name the politicians in the major parties so best of hope getting people to vote for SDP. I assume that now he has changed his political party that he will be allowing people to decide by stepping down and having an election? No?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

He's probably correct that it will be impossible or at the least very difficult to make progress in the mainstream with TR in the mix. I would credit TR with having evolved since his early days of activism, but most people won't, and it makes the job of the MSM (targeting and discrediting non-globalist parties) all too easy.

Rightly or wrongly, TR has atttracted some bad press.

8 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Nor is Tommy.

I had never heard of him before here. Sure some will dig up shit on him. He seems reasonable, but there you go.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, MrPin said:

Rightly or wrongly, TR has atttracted some bad press.

In the current climate where young men who enter the country illegally and then tell us they bear a grudge, and we respond by finding them foster carers so they can go on to try to blow up a tube train, I view him as a very useful subversive.

However his association with a political party is the end of that party if it embraces him. Which Batten appears to be doing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, DTMark said:

In the current climate where young men who enter the country illegally and then tell us they bear a grudge, and we respond by finding them foster carers so they can go on to try to blow up a tube train, I view him as a very useful subversive.

However his association with a political party is the end of that party if it embraces him. Which Batten appears to be doing.

I agree. He seems rather controversial.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

So has Cliff Richard.

A good point, but the voters would have to take him seriously.

 

I think XYY or myself might be more serious than that.:CryBaby:

Edited by MrPin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Byron said:

My long term guess  on Tommy Robinson is:-

UKIP is mainly older, greyer and middle class. There are few spare votes in that demographic except disaffected Tories.

Tommy Robinson is younger and very definitely working class.

He will appeal to younger working class voters

I suspect that some of those writing him down here are not aware of Robinson's huge international following.

If the UK is to get back on track, then a revolutionary party, willing to take on Antifa and SJWs, rip the So-Called BBC to shreds, hold the Press to account for all their lies, sort out our crazy benefit system, expel the illegal aliens, squash juvenile gender bending by abusive, idiotic parents, is needed.

Written by an American.

That is international political support

He also has a history of convictions for physically assaulting people.

That doesn't sit well with being championed by a political party.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's possible that UKIP with TR will become a 'rebel' party appealing to youngsters, but I think we are too far down the road of snowflakeism in the UK for that. Our youth want safe rebellion, with the cosy certainties of soft-socialism and the musty 1960s orthodoxies of their parents and even grandparents. UKIP as a mainstream rival to the Tories has little hope if TR is involved.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Game_of_Homes said:

Didn't Labour make an MP (Naz Shah) who has said some very dodgy and racist things as well as previously being suspended from the Labour Party, the Shadow Minister of State for Women and Equalities.

Fugly apologist for those who do us harm and a racist to boot.

I cba linking but all you have to do is search (NOT google - use duckduckgo) to see how she's used anti-semitic language and told those unruly dutty children in Rotherham to 'shut up for the sake of diversity'

A fucking vile whalehog who should be publicly flogged and paraded through the streets.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

It's possible that UKIP with TR will become a 'rebel' party appealing to youngsters, but I think we are too far down the road of snowflakeism in the UK for that. Our youth want safe rebellion, with the cosy certainties of soft-socialism and the musty 1960s orthodoxies of their parents and even grandparents. UKIP as a mainstream rival to the Tories has little hope if TR is involved.

I think it depends what happens.

9/11 delivered George Bush with a huge wave of popular support that enabled him to initiate some very dubious overseas conflicts.

I am not stirring the conspiracy pot but had that not happened then the following years would have been very different indeed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, This Time said:

Who's Patrick Flynn?

Last I heard of him was Farage giving him a spanking for his 'handbag tax' idea (a VAT on luxury items). Thought of as on the 'left' of the party. I actually didnt mind the fact he at least seemed cognizant of the growing gulf between rich and poor.

Seemed a good face for UKIP. Smart looking, reasonably good debater...again though, not sure what vision he has beyond the EU, with stuff like this. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, JFK said:

Fugly apologist for those who do us harm and a racist to boot.

I cba linking but all you have to do is search (NOT google - use duckduckgo) to see how she's used anti-semitic language and told those unruly dutty children in Rotherham to 'shut up for the sake of diversity'

A fucking vile whalehog who should be publicly flogged and paraded through the streets.

Not true. She re-tweeted such a message which was from a parody source. A few minutes later she un-tweeted it again. That's reported fact which you can confirm for yourself. 

She says it was an accidental wrong click. Obviously no idea but I have done similar myself so I know it is possible and even likely.

Personally, before I ever use language such as in your final paragraph above I always double and triple quad check for accuracy. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, PatronizingGit said:

Last I heard of him was Farage giving him a spanking for his 'handbag tax' idea (a VAT on luxury items). Thought of as on the 'left' of the party. I actually didnt mind the fact he at least seemed cognizant of the growing gulf between rich and poor.

Seemed a good face for UKIP. Smart looking, reasonably good debater...again though, not sure what vision he has beyond the EU, with stuff like this. 

Batten is one of the best debaters i've seen on tv, and he's had plenty of flak, as you can imagine.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.