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Caught the arsend - fagend?? - of this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001cv9

The programme is not important - random stories from random small places.

This was Spalding about black fags. Spalding is fenland.

The bit i heard was is the high pruce of legal fags driving the black fag market.

Copper on about nit being able to close shop, blah blah no particular nationality doing ut bs.

A google of spalding cigarretes gives

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-22537076

https://lincolnshirereporter.co.uk/2018/09/over-100k-illegal-cigarettes-seized-in-raid/

https://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/illegal-cigarette-raids-on-spalding-shops-to-begin-soon-9045069/

https://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/illegal-cigarettes-fines-too-small-says-spalding-trader-1-8377113/

Yeah no pattern - its subcontinentals, ME migrants and EEers.

In boro its all kurds.

Throw the people out if theyve not got cutizenship - 2 years prison and crims are booted out.

If they have citizenship black mark their name and dont allow any spouse renuions.

Remove tge trading kucense and bill tge LL any unpaid fune, repoing the shop.

 

 

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All shops - takeaways, offies, nail bar - need a uk resident as a responsible, liable person.

Any unpaid fines for illegal trading or slave labour or illegal labour go to thaperson. Insist they have liability insurance. Insurers are better at pricing risk compared to LAs.

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1 minute ago, stokiescum said:

the kurds run the ciggs around here,saying that they are 3 quid.i sold 14 packs on last week at work for a quid extra a pack.

Indeed. I used to go on the Polish shops, till I found out most are run by Kurds (who seem to basically be the gypo mafia of the middle east...No coincidence the Turks, Iraqis and everyone else in the region hates them)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-13/this-english-town-backed-brexit-now-the-poles-are-leaving

It also hosts no fewer than eight Polish and Lithuanian food stores, most of which advertise their European goods with the circle of 12 yellow stars that adorn the EU’s flag. It’s a jarring sight in a town that overwhelmingly voted to leave the bloc.

Hiwa Osman, a 39 year-old Iraqi Kurd, is the unlikely owner of a store selling exclusively Polish and Lithuanian food. He bought his shop from a fellow Iraqi in July. He said Lithuanians own two east European shops in town, but the rest are owned by Iraqi Kurds

 

Seems that house fires arent the only surprise you'll get from that Chinese brand...

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bootleg-cigarettes-containing-asbestos-on-sale-in-belfast-30775111.html

Of course, Jeremy C-unit thinks this is all great, we must be the Chinese. Go back from post industrial society, to dangerous, polluted, dickensian industrial society. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11914627/Jeremy-Hunt-says-Britons-must-work-like-the-Chinese-heres-what-that-means.html

 

As an aside, it seems as though sham marriages arent the only racket eastern european women and muslim men are into...

https://www.chad.co.uk/news/pair-sold-fake-and-dangerous-fags-at-a-mansfield-shop-1-7615649

 

TBH though, i'd be surprised if the eastern euros or Muzzers sell many cheap fags in east anglia. When I was a smoker a yank used to get 200cigarette cartons off the USAF base for about $27. Some of the cheaper brands started off at $12/200. Being an airbase there is only federal cigarette tax to pay (not state charges) currently $1 a pack. Though when I was getting them it was 37 cents a pack. 

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12 minutes ago, stokiescum said:

the kurds run the ciggs around here,saying that they are 3 quid.i sold 14 packs on last week at work for a quid extra a pack.

The full price now is over £10 or something daft.  I only know two smokers who aren't on rollies.

One was because she kept trying to give up, and seems to have successfully done so, and paying a stupid price for them was another way to help her give them up.

The other is a single fifty year old bloke on a reasonable salary who doesn't seem to be otherwise extravagant so he can afford it.

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1 minute ago, PatronizingGit said:

Indeed. I used to go on the Polish shops, till I found out most are run by Kurds (who seem to basically be the gypo mafia of the middle east...No coincidence the Turks, Iraqis and everyone else in the region hates them)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-13/this-english-town-backed-brexit-now-the-poles-are-leaving

It also hosts no fewer than eight Polish and Lithuanian food stores, most of which advertise their European goods with the circle of 12 yellow stars that adorn the EU’s flag. It’s a jarring sight in a town that overwhelmingly voted to leave the bloc.

Hiwa Osman, a 39 year-old Iraqi Kurd, is the unlikely owner of a store selling exclusively Polish and Lithuanian food. He bought his shop from a fellow Iraqi in July. He said Lithuanians own two east European shops in town, but the rest are owned by Iraqi Kurds

 

Seems that house fires arent the only surprise you'll get from that Chinese brand...

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bootleg-cigarettes-containing-asbestos-on-sale-in-belfast-30775111.html

Of course, Jeremy C-unit thinks this is all great, we must be the Chinese. Go back from post industrial society, to dangerous, polluted, dickensian industrial society. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11914627/Jeremy-Hunt-says-Britons-must-work-like-the-Chinese-heres-what-that-means.html

 

As an aside, it seems as though sham marriages arent the only racket eastern european women and muslim men are into...

https://www.chad.co.uk/news/pair-sold-fake-and-dangerous-fags-at-a-mansfield-shop-1-7615649

 

TBH though, i'd be surprised if the eastern euros or Muzzers sell many cheap fags in east anglia. When I was a smoker a yank used to get 200cigarette cartons off the USAF base for about $27. Some of the cheaper brands started off at $12/200. Being an airbase there is only federal cigarette tax to pay (not state charges) currently $1 a pack. Though when I was getting them it was 37 cents a pack. 

the x stoped smokeing 2 weeks ago so she asked me to sell em,but i could shift them at work quite easily.however the kurds will sell to her but not me twats

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3 minutes ago, PatronizingGit said:

Indeed. I used to go on the Polish shops, till I found out most are run by Kurds (who seem to basically be the gypo mafia of the middle east...No coincidence the Turks, Iraqis and everyone else in the region hates them)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-13/this-english-town-backed-brexit-now-the-poles-are-leaving

It also hosts no fewer than eight Polish and Lithuanian food stores, most of which advertise their European goods with the circle of 12 yellow stars that adorn the EU’s flag. It’s a jarring sight in a town that overwhelmingly voted to leave the bloc.

Hiwa Osman, a 39 year-old Iraqi Kurd, is the unlikely owner of a store selling exclusively Polish and Lithuanian food. He bought his shop from a fellow Iraqi in July. He said Lithuanians own two east European shops in town, but the rest are owned by Iraqi Kurds

 

Seems that house fires arent the only surprise you'll get from that Chinese brand...

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bootleg-cigarettes-containing-asbestos-on-sale-in-belfast-30775111.html

Of course, Jeremy C-unit thinks this is all great, we must be the Chinese. Go back from post industrial society, to dangerous, polluted, dickensian industrial society. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11914627/Jeremy-Hunt-says-Britons-must-work-like-the-Chinese-heres-what-that-means.html

 

As an aside, it seems as though sham marriages arent the only racket eastern european women and muslim men are into...

https://www.chad.co.uk/news/pair-sold-fake-and-dangerous-fags-at-a-mansfield-shop-1-7615649

 

TBH though, i'd be surprised if the eastern euros or Muzzers sell many cheap fags in east anglia. When I was a smoker a yank used to get 200cigarette cartons off the USAF base for about $27. Some of the cheaper brands started off at $12/200. Being an airbase there is only federal cigarette tax to pay (not state charges) currently $1 a pack. Though when I was getting them it was 37 cents a pack. 

Id check the use of 'own'. Hell have the lease, thats all.

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Very disappointing thread, I was hoping for racy rumpy pumpy tales about Jacob Rees-Moog, Call-me Dave, Bonkers Boris and their chums at public school; lots of thrashed bottoms, ginger beer and other jolly japes.

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"No particular nationality doing it" so why mention it then? Always an obvious subliminal message, reminds me of the time the So-Called BBC tried to pretend acid attacks were being done by all races equally.

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This is what happens when you use taxation as a tool for social engineering.

Personally, although I don't smoke, I don't see why some self righteous politician should be able to use my vote to oppress those who wish to smoke.

What ever happened to LIBERTY?

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59 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

The full price now is over £10 or something daft.  I only know two smokers who aren't on rollies.

One was because she kept trying to give up, and seems to have successfully done so, and paying a stupid price for them was another way to help her give them up.

The other is a single fifty year old bloke on a reasonable salary who doesn't seem to be otherwise extravagant so he can afford it.

Someone told me yesterday they were 8 quid. She went and gave most of her packet to the homeless guy outside tescos though

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15 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Someone told me yesterday they were 8 quid. She went and gave most of her packet to the homeless guy outside tescos though

That will be the cheapest of the cheap.  The ones I used to smoke way back and only for a year or so were Dunhill which are £12.10.

If you're smoking twenty a day then the current level of JSA won't even keep you in fags.  I worked with someone on 60 JPS black a day so that would now be pushing £300 a week or £13k a year.

In a country where the use of class A drugs continues, and is pretty much compulsory in prisons, this penalisation of a drug that doesn't make people violent or dangerous behind the wheel of a car seems spiteful.

 

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See - ahead of the movers and shakers!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47004388

On radio too - millions of fake illegal cigarettes flood the UK.

Nope.

Millions of illegal migrants flood the UK, where they hook up with dodgy 3rd world fag makers and smuggle black fags in and sell them from shitty shops - assuming theyve not blown up the shop for insurance.

 

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And look at the person whos been caught and where

The illegal trade diverts £2.1bn a year in tax from HM Revenue and Customs.

In one case, Peterborough man Karwan Salim Ahamed was sentenced last month after using fake Facebook profiles to sell illegal cigarettes on the social media site's "Lincolnshire + Boston + Spalding + Skegness + Sleaford + Kirton + Heckington etc" group.

Mr Ahamed was ordered to do 200 hours community service and pay £5,000 in costs.

Then after hes paid the fine and done community service, you kick the fucker and his family out.

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14 minutes ago, SNACR said:

Drop in the ocean compared to the revenue that must have been lost to vaping but's barely ever mentioned.

They will come for that next but buying juice is legal and I’m paying vat on it

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Can’t really get that excited..  a few shops are selling under the counter bootlegged fags.. headline news shocker!

Since when were DOSBODS so concerned about Inland Revenue not making enough money?

Tobacco is massively overtaxed.. I’m really not going to lose much sleep over it.

Edited by Libspero

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9 minutes ago, Libspero said:

Can’t really get that excited..  a few shops are selling under the counter bootlegged fags.. headline news shocker!

Since when were DOSBODS so concerned about Inland Revenue not making enough money?

Tobacco is massively overtaxed.. I’m really not going to lose much sleep over it.

Agreed the next stage in revenue raising will be alcohol priced by the unit I’m expecting it to get quite competitive amongst us over who can stockpile the most booze before it kicks in

Edited by stokiescum

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7 minutes ago, Libspero said:

Can’t really get that excited..  a few shops are selling under the counter bootlegged fags.. headline news shocker!

Since when were DOSBODS so concerned about Inland Revenue not making enough money?

Tobacco is massively overtaxed.. I’m really not going to lose much sleep over it.

Few??????

You need to get out down some backstreets.

We have supposed 'hardworking migrants (c)' who are doing nothing more than taking benefits selling black fags and vodka.

 

33 minutes ago, SNACR said:

Drop in the ocean compared to the revenue that must have been lost to vaping but's barely ever mentioned.

No problem with vaping.

If it helps people quit then fine.

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3 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Few??????

You need to get out down some backstreets.

We have supposed 'hardworking migrants (c)' who are doing nothing more than taking benefits selling black fags and vodka.

 

No problem with vaping.

If it helps people quit then fine.

I’ve no intention of stoping vapeing is a very cheap way of geting my fix but your correct the counterfeit cig trade is huge

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9 minutes ago, Libspero said:

Can’t really get that excited..  a few shops are selling under the counter bootlegged fags.. headline news shocker!

Since when were DOSBODS so concerned about Inland Revenue not making enough money?

Tobacco is massively overtaxed.. I’m really not going to lose much sleep over it.

If you look down the current published list of tax evaders caught (called something like deliberate defaulters list) it looks like they've raked in loads. When you look at it more closely all the big figures are Chinese people with an address in China, who've been selling mobile phone cases, or something, online so presumably the prospects of recovering that money is zilch - they'll argue they'll now get the revenue from legit businesses but frankly I doubt it.

The rest of the list is then all takeaways and chip shops, often in deprived areas like South Wales who won't be declaring all their sales but I'd suspect it's the difference between them making a living wage or not.

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/publishing-details-of-deliberate-tax-defaulters-pddd/current-list-of-deliberate-tax-defaulters

Sort of.

Chinese ebay/amazoners.

Ethnic takeaways.

Builder.s

Scattering of IT consultants and bent companies.

Getting the Chinese bayers on record is good way of lobbying for changes to gidiots gormless 'Lets sell to china!' scheme.

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Few??????

You need to get out down some backstreets.

We have supposed 'hardworking migrants (c)' who are doing nothing more than taking benefits selling black fags and vodka.

 

No problem with vaping.

If it helps people quit then fine.

I'm never really sure why you're that bothered about it I daresay you're not personally funding a great deal of these bennies, or lost bootleg fag revenue, in any case.

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