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TheBlueCat

Arrogant & Stupid Business Execs

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Two examples:

VW exec, who knows that the US government are all over the emissions stuff and have likely charged him (sealed warrant) goes on holiday to Florida and gets nabbed. Particularly dumb given that Germany doesn't extradite its own citizens:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20171206/vw-executive-arrested-in-florida-gets-7-years-in-diesel-scandal

Huawei CFO goes to Vancouver, presumably to but a few more houses to leave empty, gets arrested by the mounties and will shortly be sent to the US. All this despite knowing that Trump is going in big time on Iran sanctions and surely knowing that Huawei are likely guilty as charged. Again, from a country that would never extradite her to the US:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-huawei-arrest-cfo-1.4934269

There were  bunch of similar cases during the online gambling boom too. How can people so smart in other ways be so spectacularly dumb in this one?

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Just now, TheBlueCat said:

Two examples:

VW exec, who knows that the US government are all over the emissions stuff and have likely charged him (sealed warrant) goes on holiday to Florida and gets nabbed. Particularly dumb given that Germany doesn't extradite its own citizens:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20171206/vw-executive-arrested-in-florida-gets-7-years-in-diesel-scandal

Huawei CFO goes to Vancouver, presumably to but a few more houses to leave empty, gets arrested by the mounties and will shortly be sent to the US. All this despite knowing that Trump is going in big time on Iran sanctions and surely knowing that Huawei are likely guilty as charged. Again, from a country that would never extradite her to the US:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-huawei-arrest-cfo-1.4934269

There were  bunch of similar cases during the online gambling boom too. How can people so smart in other ways be so spectacularly dumb in this one?

hubris.

 

seen it time and again.  Plus, in some cases, they grow up in countries where no-one from the protected class gets arrested (China) and they just don't understand how other countries work.

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Agree with the different cultures argument..  most would get caught.

Like someone here flying to the middle east and then suddenly finding themselves on death dow for a blasphemy charge. Could happen if you were unlucky.

Sometimes I think there are deliberate honey trap operations as well. I can think of one example of this personally that I can't really talk about on an open forum..  but basically people being summoned to the US by their own company from a non-extradition country only to be jumped by the men in black as soon as they arrive at their hotel.   

Not required in the UK of course thanks to Gordon Brown.

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Just to be super pedantic, but dumb does not mean stupid in real English.

Americans confuse the German Dummkopf which means fool with the English word dumb which means unable to speak.

Apparently Americans get annoyed if you refer to dogs as dumb animals insisting that their are quite smart (which does not mean clever)

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13 minutes ago, Byron said:

Just to be super pedantic, but dumb does not mean stupid in real English.

Americans confuse the German Dummkopf which means fool with the English word dumb which means unable to speak.

Apparently Americans get annoyed if you refer to dogs as dumb animals insisting that their are quite smart (which does not mean clever)

It seems to have been in use to mean stupid in North America - where I live - for long enough to count as proper usage:

https://www.etymonline.com/word/dumb

 

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14 hours ago, TheBlueCat said:

Two examples:

VW exec, who knows that the US government are all over the emissions stuff and have likely charged him (sealed warrant) goes on holiday to Florida and gets nabbed. Particularly dumb given that Germany doesn't extradite its own citizens:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20171206/vw-executive-arrested-in-florida-gets-7-years-in-diesel-scandal

Huawei CFO goes to Vancouver, presumably to but a few more houses to leave empty, gets arrested by the mounties and will shortly be sent to the US. All this despite knowing that Trump is going in big time on Iran sanctions and surely knowing that Huawei are likely guilty as charged. Again, from a country that would never extradite her to the US:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-huawei-arrest-cfo-1.4934269

There were  bunch of similar cases during the online gambling boom too. How can people so smart in other ways be so spectacularly dumb in this one?

I heard that Huawei lady only changing planes in vancouver. Also even if you knew the Americans were after you, Vancouver isn't in America. 

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15 hours ago, TheBlueCat said:

Two examples:

VW exec, who knows that the US government are all over the emissions stuff and have likely charged him (sealed warrant) goes on holiday to Florida and gets nabbed. Particularly dumb given that Germany doesn't extradite its own citizens:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20171206/vw-executive-arrested-in-florida-gets-7-years-in-diesel-scandal

Huawei CFO goes to Vancouver, presumably to but a few more houses to leave empty, gets arrested by the mounties and will shortly be sent to the US. All this despite knowing that Trump is going in big time on Iran sanctions and surely knowing that Huawei are likely guilty as charged. Again, from a country that would never extradite her to the US:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-huawei-arrest-cfo-1.4934269

There were  bunch of similar cases during the online gambling boom too. How can people so smart in other ways be so spectacularly dumb in this one?

Little Miss Hauwai got her job from studying and working hard being the CEOs daugther.

AS far as the VWer? Well, have you tried a German beach holiday?

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1 hour ago, Byron said:

Just to be super pedantic, but dumb does not mean stupid in real English.

Americans confuse the German Dummkopf which means fool with the English word dumb which means unable to speak.

Apparently Americans get annoyed if you refer to dogs as dumb animals insisting that their are quite smart (which does not mean clever)

They also have rather silly names for bits of cars!

Edited by Harley

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1 hour ago, Byron said:

Just to be super pedantic, but dumb does not mean stupid in real English.

Americans confuse the German Dummkopf which means fool with the English word dumb which means unable to speak.

Apparently Americans get annoyed if you refer to dogs as dumb animals insisting that they are quite smart (which does not mean clever)

As we are in pedant mode...

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