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spygirl

A yellow penny finally drops

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Not just Trump.

Gullible idiots havd allowed Trump to outmanouver them on China, clinging to the idea its a nice open country.

Its not.

https://m.slashdot.org/story/349356

And the huawei crap.

And zte from a while back.

Just as well the uk stood up to them, and didnt do something stupid like them build a nuclear powerstation or have an ex PM in a chinese investment fund.

 

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1 hour ago, One percent said:

Why the fuck would they want th buy the north west?  It never stops raining 

I was working with an israeli, who come over to the uk for a couple of weeks for a project handover.

It was mid summer. It was pissing it down.

He was looking out of the window like a load of topless 18yo girls were walking down the road.

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1 minute ago, spygirl said:

I was working with an israeli, who come over to the uk for a couple of weeks for a project handover.

It was mid summer. It was pissing it down.

He was looking out of the window like a load of topless 18yo girls were walking down the road.

Eh? 

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1 hour ago, Band said:

Gidiots also selling off vast swathes of the North West to them under thr guise of his Northern shithouse nonsense.

nah, record FDI is evidence of our benevolent partners confidence in Brexit Britain, and DEFINITELY NOT the harbinger of us becoming tenants in the land our forebears built up. 

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17 minutes ago, PatronizingGit said:

nah, record FDI is evidence of our benevolent partners confidence in Brexit Britain, and DEFINITELY NOT the harbinger of us becoming tenants in the land our forebears built up. 

 

31 minutes ago, spygirl said:

I was working with an israeli, who come over to the uk for a couple of weeks for a project handover.

It was mid summer. It was pissing it down.

He was looking out of the window like a load of topless 18yo girls were walking down the road.

It was fucken scorchio last summer

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1 hour ago, PatronizingGit said:

nah, record FDI is evidence of our benevolent partners confidence in Brexit Britain, and DEFINITELY NOT the harbinger of us becoming tenants in the land our forebears built up. 

Yes. Foreign investment in a way impoverishes us, makes us lazy. Just another way to noise control of industry and business - particularly bad for strategic industries and utilities. Like we can't afford to invest in our own country.

Our shit, on the make politicians favourite go-to - selling off assets. They made it so expensive to do, make and create that funny money was essential. Then there is foreign investment in property pricing out locals and exacerbating the cost of living.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Alonso Quijano said:

Yes. Foreign investment in a way impoverishes us, makes us lazy. Just another way to noise control of industry and business - particularly bad for strategic industries and utilities. Like we can't afford to invest in our own country.

Our shit, on the make politicians favourite go-to - selling off assets. They made it so expensive to do, make and create that funny money was essential. Then there is foreign investment in property pricing out locals and exacerbating the cost of living.

 

 

I think its a symptom in many ways. We don't pay our way in the world, so must, if we arent selling products, sell off bits of our country. 

All this talk of 'limiting foreign buyers' from the housing market sounds nice, but how much does the selling off of our country hold up the pound. 

On the other hand, increasing the money supply by 10-15% cant do wonders for the pound either, yet thats been going on for decades, mostly to boost house prices, whichhas shown to have variable, at best, effects on boosting the real economy (short term...long term its always a feckin disaster)

I think we have just had this model for so long, politicians are shit scared to touch it, even if it is slowly, incrementally, making us poorer each and every year. 

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13 minutes ago, Alonso Quijano said:

Yes. Foreign investment in a way impoverishes us, makes us lazy. Just another way to noise control of industry and business - particularly bad for strategic industries and utilities. Like we can't afford to invest in our own country.

Our shit, on the make politicians favourite go-to - selling off assets. They made it so expensive to do, make and create that funny money was essential. Then there is foreign investment in property pricing out locals and exacerbating the cost of living.

 

 

Posh British cunts exporting the UKs manufacturing base thus jobs to China/Asia ... Then flogging off  land/property to the chosen few in China/Asia who done well out of this ... so we can then pay Chinese/Asians rent thus exporting more of our nations wealth is economic suicide.

But its also liblabcon policy.

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https://www.ft.com/content/16381afa-f986-11e8-8b7c-6fa24bd5409c

How Huawei used the uK to become a global giant.

All down to the bright Ben Verwaayen and his buy in tyo BT's 21CN

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_21CN

Forget comments about Marconi and the like. Marconi were fucked by 2000. They had no ability to maintain their existing products, never mind create totally new ones.

Daft Ben did not give all 21CN to Huaweii. There were a number of competitors. All huawei did was rip off - and I mean verbatim copy - a lot of Cisco kit. I was talking to someone in 2006 who's main worry was waiting for Cisco lawyers to come in a size most of the stuff Huawei deployed as it was all Cisco software and hardware designs . Theyd scanned a sample of the software binaries and their werre cisco (c) inthem.

End of wiki:

In late 2009, British ISP Andrews & Arnold reported severe issues with 21CN, citing multi-hour outages due to single points of failure and said that 21CN was not "fit for purpose" due to this and numerous other problems.[7]

Basically, daft ben's 'design' does not work - IP networks are no manageable/reliable - one node failure tends to blow out other nodes. The use of MPLS was a daft solution that did not work.

Putting aidw secutiry risks, there were some comments about Huawie engineering processes being abit lacking. What Huawie appear to be doing is trying to make all their 5g kit from open source stuff.  Theyd OK-ish if they were using erlang./otp but they are not. As it stands Huaweie appear to be thowing dumb chinese grads at the problematic, very few of which are very competent - you go to Uni i nChina based on your political connections. Theres also a massive demographic bust in China ...... And most of the kids are moving into banks and finance and prooperty speculation - just like we did.

 

 

 

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Huawei vos to do anything to sort out security concerns.

As usual, comments are the most interesting.

Top rated one:

Admit to industrial espionage against Nortel and Cisco, give full biographical details of all Directors and key managers, allow non Chinese onto Board and reveal entire share register with proof of beneficial ownership.

Nails it.

The entire first 10 year of Hauwei was basically robbed HW + SW from Cisco and Nortel - the entire business is built on stolen IP.

If they admit that, or open up the source code, then they they will be sued out of business.

As I mention earlier, despite various top brass enthusiasm for Huawei kit, someone in the field was expecting  Cisco laweyrs to seize the kit as evidence of IP theft - it was all copies of cisco hardware and software.

 

 

 

 

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/18/german_cybersecurity_chief_show_me_the_huawei_evidence/

Huawei has opened a facility in Bonn, in west Germany, where it shares code and allows Schönbohm's risk assessors to inspect Huawei kit. This is along the same lines as the UK's Huawei Cyber Security Evaluation Centre (HCSEC) in Banbury, informally known as "The Cell", which addresses GCHQ's concerns about backdoors in Huawei products.

This has been running for seven years and the Oversight Board has now produced four annual reports. The most recent, in July, warned that "the Oversight Board can provide only limited assurance that all risks to UK national security from Huawei's involvement in the UK's critical networks have been sufficiently mitigated".

UK's Huawei handler dials back support for Chinese giant's kit in critical infrastructure

 

HCSEC attempts to replicate Huawei binaries from source code provided by the company to ensure end-to-end scrutiny. It hasn't fully completed this, the Oversight Board said, and also expressed concerns about third-party software (PDF).

First one, unsurprisngly, UK civil servants dont undertsdnwhat the system does and whether it does something a bit extra.

Second, they were giving the source code. Tried to build a release. And could not.

 

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Depends who you want to believe, really. I am more minded to trust the Chinese than the Americans nowadays, the latter as everyone now knows, have built backdoors into everything via the NSA and their British counterparts GCHQ. Either the Chinese wanted a piece of that pie or (more likely) they've not got anything on Huawei or ZTE and they're making it up.

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