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WorkingPoor

Football star goes missing over English channel.

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Couldnt see a thread on this aircrash from monday night, involving a Cardiff city striker who had just been purchased for £28m

Guy sent a voicemail to his dad saying he thought the plane was  going to fall apart and that he was scared.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/23/emiliano-sala-search-resumes-for-lost-plane-carrying-cardiff-player

Now everyone knows that survival time in the atlantic at this time of year is 12-20mins tops 

but there seems to be another government directed media notice to brief out that "rescuers think emiliano got into a liferaft and could still be found etc etc

rather like how they deliberatley delayed identifying the football heirachy who were on the leicester city helicopter that crashed. 

Why do they do it? 

isnt it obvious pilot & passener were dead within 20mins of the plane ditching or killed on impact? 

This fantasy notion that he is doing a Ray Mears & bobbing on a liferaft catching fish and drinking rainwater for 3 days in -2 degrees and soaking wet is absolute fake propaganda. 

Bodies will never be found too.

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7 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Its possible but unlikely.

The plane could have ditch at a slow enough speed, allowing them to escape.

Hope fr the best, expect the worse.

Ohh ffs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6622617/This-lie-Emiliano-Salas-distraught-ex-calls-soccer-mafia-investigated.html

models ...

So the girlfriend thinks Soccer mafia agents tampered with his plane? 

possible, 

it was a private hired light aircraft and not commercial so soccer mafia types could have gained access to it at a small airfield. 

He did phone his father and said he thought it was going to fall apart. 

Ol' Shrivdahannaprabha probably met the same fate. 

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I dont like the behaviour of these "football clubs" during these "tragedies" either, implying that everyone should be hoping & praying etc 

the truth is football is something for old duffers to talk about down the pub, the vast majority of the population couldn't give a toss about it. 

 

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Mr Dalman said players and fans were in a "state of shock" and the club had received messages of support from around the world.

The "family of football has a way of coming together at times of tragedy," he told BBC Radio Wales' Good Morning Wales.

:Sick1:

Ah at least someone talking sense:

There is "no hope" of finding missing Cardiff City footballer Emiliano Sala, a search and rescue officer has said.

The Argentine striker, 28, and a pilot were on board the plane which lost contactoff Alderney in the Channel Islands on Monday night.

Chief officer of Channel Islands Air Search, John Fitzgerald, said "even the most fit person" would only last a few hours in the water.

Mr Fitzgerald said: "Sadly, I really don't think, personally, there is any hope. At this time of year the conditions out there are pretty horrendous if you are actually in the water."

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If you thought there was any chance of someone being out to get you, you certainly wouldn't choose to take a small plane from a private airfield over the Channel at night in January. Well, assuming you had an IQ higher than 50, which isn't always the case with footballers.

Sad for his family and the family of the pilot. I suppose there's a possibility they'll find nothing at all if the plane went into the water and sank without breaking up with both of them still inside.

 

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4 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

If you thought there was any chance of someone being out to get you, you certainly wouldn't choose to take a small plane from a private airfield over the Channel at night in January. Well, assuming you had an IQ higher than 50, which isn't always the case with footballers.

Sad for his family and the family of the pilot. I suppose there's a possibility they'll find nothing at all if the plane went into the water and sank without breaking up with both of them still inside.

 

Yeah, I'd be highly surprised if them or their plane is ever seen again. 

A small plane took off from near here not too long ago for a flight to the Isle of Man. It disappeared and has yet to be found to this day.

Very, very difficult to spot plane wreckage. I've come across big old bomber wrecks in the mountains and you wouldn't know it was there until you were just about on top of it. 

Spotting the wreckage of a tiny plane from another plane in shit weather in the Atlantic?

Virtually zero chance.

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Hmmm..........

The UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch said today the missing plane is a Piper PA-46-310P Malibu aircraft with the registration N264DB, which is reportedly owned by British football agent Willie McKay, who lives in Monaco. 

McKay is not Sala’s agent but helped brokering the transfer between Cardiff and Nantes as well as his flight for his first day at training, according to The Times.

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Maybe this "Willie Mckay" should have been on it, ? 

(and not the argentine striker)

just brokered a huge transfer deal and put a few noses out of joint? 

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The weather forecast last night was showing a large band of heavy snow across South Wales from basically the Severn as far West as Swansea and north to the Beacons.

If the pilot was alive it would be interesting asking him what his plan was if, upon reaching his destination, visibility made it impossible to land and/or if Cardiff was closed.

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6 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

Hmmm..........

The UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch said today the missing plane is a Piper PA-46-310P Malibu aircraft with the registration N264DB, which is reportedly owned by British football agent Willie McKay, who lives in Monaco. 

McKay is not Sala’s agent but helped brokering the transfer between Cardiff and Nantes as well as his flight for his first day at training, according to The Times.

 

N-reg aircraft are numerous in the UK and across Europe. They are usually owned by trusts or by rich people. The US reg means that they can, allegedly, circumvent UK and EU regs which some consider more restrictive, and more costly, than the FAA rules.

Think of flag of convenience re shipping.

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1 minute ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

N-reg aircraft are numerous in the UK and across Europe. They are usually owned by trusts or by rich people. The US reg means that they can, allegedly, circumvent UK and EU regs which some consider more restrictive, and more costly, than the FAA rules.

Think of flag of convenience re shipping.

Plane was registered in Norfolk according to the Mail link above

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1 minute ago, WorkingPoor said:

Plane was registered in Norfolk according to the Mail link above

Then it would be G and not N. Nor would the FAA be sticking their nose in.

The trust or rich person that owns it will have registered it as being based at X and when they registered it, in the US, the physical geographical location could be pretty much anywhere.

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French media had reported pilot David Henderson, 60, was flying the missing Piper Malibu PA-46, which disappeared near the Channel Islands on Monday night.

Mr Henderson later took to Facebook to confirm he was alive and well and it is unknown who was flying the missing PA-46.

But in 2015, Mr Henderson appeared in a BBC video about his life as a transatlantic pilot and described the dangers of flying a Piper Malibu.

In fact, Mr Henderson told how he would always wear a neoprene wetsuit and packed a life raft in the back to give him '6 or 7 or 8 hours survivability' in case he ditched into the Atlantic.

^ smart cookie.

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10 minutes ago, ashestoashes said:

passenger saying help, plane is falling apart - check

at the end of the day you're responsible for your own safety, if it doesn't feel right then get off

Bit tricky over the Atlantic to get off though. Albeit possible I'm sure

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Literally hundreds of people die every day in traffic accidents in Europe alone. How is this one any different and why is it getting so much attention and resources?

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Can I just suggest that if any dosbodders find themselves in this situation, without causing alarm amongst any other passengers, you casually ask the pilot for your current longitude and latitude readings and the direction you are heading in? Then tell your dad to make a note of them.

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It's incredible how when these things happen it's as if the world has reverted to the days of Charles Lindbergh. 

In 2019 yet again an aircraft vanishes without trace despite all the modern technology claimed to be at hand - even over one of the narrowest bits of seawater such as the Channel and within the high tech eu.

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2 minutes ago, twocents said:

It's incredible how when these things happen it's as if the world has reverted to the days of Charles Lindbergh. 

In 2019 yet again an aircraft vanishes without trace despite all the modern technology claimed to be at hand - even over one of the narrowest bits of water such as the Channel and within the high tech eu.

 

It only looks a narrow bit of water on a map when comapred to bigger bits of water. In reality it is a very large expanse of water.

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19 minutes ago, kibuc said:

Literally hundreds of people die every day in traffic accidents in Europe alone. How is this one any different and why is it getting so much attention and resources?

That's the thought that always goes through my mind.

No one cares about the Dad who died at work and whos family will struggle to cope without him. Or maybe the young child, or the Mum with cancer. Every day, people suffer hardship and loss.

I once saw paramedics working on a guy at a busy London station at 5:30pm. It seemed surreal that hundreds of people made their way past without a care, heading home. Right at that moment there was probably a wife or family at home wondering when Dad will be home.

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14 minutes ago, Democorruptcy said:

Can I just suggest that if any dosbodders find themselves in this situation, without causing alarm amongst any other passengers, you casually ask the pilot for your current longitude and latitude readings and the direction you are heading in? Then tell your dad to make a note of them.

Or perhaps enable location services on your phone. Flagships are waterproof, too.

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