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Frank Hovis

Age ID check comes in 1 April - missed opportunity?

Will you being age identifying?  

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  1. 1. Well, will ya punk?

    • Yes
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    • No
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    • Maybe
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    • What a man chooses to do in the privacy of his own attic is his own business
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    • I don't live in the police state that is the UK
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Posted (edited)

It's purely focussing upon pron.  Yes it's another internet freedom gone but do you really want your young child having the free run of these sites?   

What however about social media?  The source of eating disorders, self harm and even suicides, murders amongst young teenagers.

Facebook has a minimum age of 13 - which is ridiculously low IMO but isn't being checked anyway.

This could have been a way to protect under 16s from the harmful effects of social media but instead it's merely a crackdown on shuffles.

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/porn-block-introduced-uk-next-2614458

Edited for poll.

In which I can't vote anyway as the person who posted it.

Edited by Frank Hovis

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9 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

It's purely focussing upon pron.  Yes it's another internet freedom gone but do you really want your young child having the free run of these sites?   

What however about social media?  The source of eating disorders, self harm and even suicides, murders amongst young teenagers.

Facebook has a minimum age of 13 - which is ridiculously low IMO but isn't being checked anyway.

This could have been a way to protect under 16s from the harmful effects of social media but instead it's merely a crackdown on shuffles.

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/porn-block-introduced-uk-next-2614458

 

I take the opposite view and dislike any attempt to curtail internet freedom.  I'm talking as a dad of three, two of whom are still teenagers.

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1 minute ago, sukuinage said:

I take the opposite view and dislike any attempt to curtail internet freedom.  I'm talking as a dad of three, two of whom are still teenagers.

I dislike it but accept it may have an upside.

Boys' exam results will catch up with girls' again for example.

1 minute ago, JoeDavola said:

I'm assuming this means the state can track the porn watching habits of individuals?

Ah well, I'm a former heavy user but don't use it any more ... "wanks for the memories" as they say...

Don't think so.  They're monitoring that the site's checking the user's age not the user themself.

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It's a great irony of nature that oftentimes the years when young mans libido is at his highest are the years when he has the least hope of finding a sexual partner.

Enter pornography.

I actually think it would be healthier for young men (say 16-21) to have access to safe legal prostitutes rather than rely on porn as their sexual outlet.

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9 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Boys' exam results will catch up with girls' again for example

Naah, they'll just go round their mate's for his stash of ID cards :D

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As others I disapprove of state involvement and policing of the web in nearly all aspects.

Mainly because I grew up with a free internet and saw no ill effects from it either in myself or my peers. 

None of my friends that I'm aware of saw strong pornography as anything much more than funny..   "hey, guys !   check out this video of a woman and a chicken"  for example.  Who cares.

Kids are going to learn about sex and kinks one way or another..     the internet is probably as good a place as any.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do actually manage to stop kids watching it they will actually see a massive spike in teenage pregnancy..  but we will see.

Personally I will either get a VPN,  or just create an account and leave my log-in lying around in an easy to find location for if the kids ever decide they want to look at boobies.    Knock yourselves out..  better than them watching animal pron on the discovery channel.

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Posted (edited)

As if life in the UK was not miserable enough already....

Incidentally there are far more disturbing things for kids to see on YouTube than any mainstream porn site.

 

Edited by Virgil Caine

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12 minutes ago, Libspero said:

As others I disapprove of state involvement and policing of the web in nearly all aspects.

Mainly because I grew up with a free internet and saw no ill effects from it either in myself or my peers. 

None of my friends that I'm aware of saw strong pornography as anything much more than funny..   "hey, guys !   check out this video of a woman and a chicken"  for example.  Who cares.

Kids are going to learn about sex and kinks one way or another..     the internet is probably as good a place as any.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do actually manage to stop kids watching it they will actually see a massive spike in teenage pregnancy..  but we will see.

Personally I will either get a VPN,  or just create an account and leave my log-in lying around in an easy to find location for if the kids ever decide they want to look at boobies.    Knock yourselves out..  better than them watching animal pron on the discovery channel.

And then watch some X-files? 9_9

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Kids all use or other of the free VPN browser plugins anyway from what I can tell. Unless the government is going to go all China and start blocking VPN connections at the border this will have very limited effect.

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9 minutes ago, TheBlueCat said:

..... Unless the government is going to go all China and start blocking VPN connections at the border this will have very limited effect.

Maybe that's the real motive.  Pick an "easy win" subject like this, "Oh, it's not working because of VPNs", stop VPNs, win the ultimate prize - stop a lot more too!

Not that a VPN will stop some interested agencies but will stop the myriad of other agencies (e.g. your local council bod) from checking up on you when, say, you have the nerve to complain!

This is the very thin end of a very large wedge, as it were.

The current totalitarism moves eagerly on as the frogs slowly boil!

Edited by Harley

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17 minutes ago, Virgil Caine said:

Unless people are a dedicated porn users are they going to bother getting Age Id. I would imagine casual viewers simply won’t bother so presumably overall porn viewing will drop. 

My internet provider (Talk Talk) had an issue where new installs had parental settings put on and you couldn't remove them; it wasn't deliberate but it was an issue they seemed to be unable to fix (it wasn't just me there were long discussions about them on forums and that nobody had been able to take them off despite some lengthy calls to their helpdesk).

Whilst I could live with it it was annoying in that it was blocking adult sites, meaning adult rather than "adult".  I couldn't even get onto a homebrew forum to read about brewing heaters and many other websites that certainly weren't "adult" but were adult.  One day I realised that it had just gone; it took well over a year.

My concern would be if that extension to all adult sites was rolled out and I end up having to get myself age registered in order to read a homebrew forum.

 

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6 minutes ago, Bricks & Mortar said:

Free VPN plugins?  I thought I 'd have to pay through the nose for anonymity.

Are they any good?

I think Opera has an inbuilt free VPN. I've never used that browser, however

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16 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

I'll get my analogue stuff out of the loft, premium 1980s stuff anyone, love women with big hair (perms).

Well the porn plot lines have not changed much since the Victorian era.

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I'll add that I do think there is an opportunity here (other than being someone that runs the ageid sites) -- but I can't work out what.

Internet porn is complex, as it isn't immediately clear where the profits lie.  Or, rather, if one did set up some sort of UK porn backdoor* it isn't clear how it could be monetised.

[* Ha!]

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Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, Virgil Caine said:

As if life in the UK was not miserable enough already....

Incidentally there are far more disturbing things for kids to see on YouTube than any mainstream porn site.

 

Yup as is the case with most social media, far more toxic than a bit of grot IMO.

I was greeted by the unbidden sight of a man with his legs blown off on Instagram yesterday, another day cheerily showed me a video of an infant getting run over by a bus in between pictures of mountains and girls in G-strings like I requested. Fucked me up for the day that did.

But apparently happily shagging consenting adults is the issue...Jesus wept I thought the UK had binned off this 'no sex please, we're British' puritannical bollocks years ago.

Edited by Sgt Hartman

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3 minutes ago, Virgil Caine said:

Well the porn plot lines have not changed much since the Victorian era.

Victorian era is quite apposite -- now, like then, rules are made of our moral behaviour by people that seem to have the worst morals of all.

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4 minutes ago, Sgt Hartman said:

Yup as is the case with most social media, far more toxic than a bit of grot IMO.

I was greeted by the unbidden sight of a man with his legs blown off on Instagram yesterday, another day cheerily showed me a video of an infant getting run over by a bus in between pictures of mountains and girls in G-strings like I requested. Fucked me up for the day that did.

But apparently happily shagging consenting adults is the issue...Jesus wept I thought the UK had binned off this 'no sex please, we're British' puritannical bollocks years ago.

I am amazed at the number of people who have watched ISIS beheading videos and that some, even on here, watched those two woman tourists being raped and beheaded in Morocco.

This stuff is now in your memory; it's not what I want sitting in my memories.

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8 minutes ago, dgul said:

I'll add that I do think there is an opportunity here (other than being someone that runs the ageid sites) -- but I can't work out what.

Swapmeets, like the good old days of VHS when a quality tape could be multiplied many times between those in the works club into a veritable library.

Young lust or pandoras mirror anyone?

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