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spygirl

10M -/+ 2M Europeans in UK

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On 18/08/2019 at 23:12, spygirl said:

Theres a hoohaa as its rumoured that FOM will end dead on 31 Oct.

Theres this org

https://www.the3million.org.uk/about-us

Niw 3m is the number of euers living in uk before ee ascension.

Even with tgat laughably low fugure, thats still 3x more than ukers living in eu.

The issue is purely about access to benefits n public services and the sheer number of lw paid eeers in the uk.

If neither side correct that tgan brexit will roll on n on.

 

 

FT running the story, which probably confirms it

Pledge to end free movement under no-deal Brexit upsets business

https://www.ft.com/content/fc77be1c-c299-11e9-a8e9-296ca66511c9

Strange, I cannot remember reading an article of business bringing in millions of low paid, benefit dependent workers upsets British residents.



Adam Marshall, director-general of the British Chambers of Commerce, warned that “at a time of critical labour shortages, UK firms need continued access to skills at all levels to fill local shortages when they arise”.

which links to:

UK employers may struggle to fill low-skilled roles owing to the tight labour market and a drop in migration from the EU, even though some of them are finally increasing pay to compete for staff, according to a quarterly survey.

If they are so critical then why is the pay so low and you are requiring them to get a transfer of benefits public services for them to be inthe UK?

Firms need to pay fucking more.And autonmate the low skilled jobs, like all other developed economies.

If they want to employ loads of Poles Romanians and Indians then they need to set up shop in the those countries.

 

 

 

 

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On 20/08/2019 at 11:40, sarahbell said:

Fruit farmer moaning how UK people don't want to come and earn money picking fruit.
Same old thing, lazy british people don't want to live in a shed for months earning a bit of cash cos it fucks up HB etc.

 

They were moaning about this back in 2013 before brexit was even on the horizon (before even EU2 members got open door immigration rights)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/14/agricultural-workers-ukraine-future-may

Perhaps some jobs arent worth doing...theres a reason we dont have shoe shines on every street corner anymore. 

1 hour ago, spygirl said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-49412835

Children living in shipping containers.

LA funding cuts. Apparently.

 

"However, the severe lack of social rented homes available in which to house families means councils have no choice but to place households in temporary accommodation."

Arent the So-Called BBC usually shilling for some "socially conscious" hipster with a bizness selling 'luxury shipping containers' to local authorities as a 'green' solution to the housing crisis?!

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12 minutes ago, PatronizingGit said:

They were moaning about this back in 2013 before brexit was even on the horizon (before even EU2 members got open door immigration rights)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/14/agricultural-workers-ukraine-future-may

Perhaps some jobs arent worth doing...theres a reason we dont have shoe shines on every street corner anymore. 

Arent the So-Called BBC usually shilling for some "socially conscious" hipster with a bizness selling 'luxury shipping containers' to local authorities as a 'green' solution to the housing crisis?!

Its beyond a joke.

https://www.metro.news/thousands-in-shipping-containers-hell-homes/1683072/

Mother-of-two Corelle Tertullien, 26, moved into a container in Hanwell, west London, shortly before she was due to give birth last December.

She told the Bleak Houses report by the Children’s Commissioner for England she was now forced to wash her son of nine months on the floor with cups of water as he’d grown too big for the sink. Another mother, 29, who had arrived from the Calais jungle, said conditions inside the container were worse than she had faced in Eritrea and Sudan.

She added: ‘It’s better than Calais but no-one wishes to live in a container.

‘When I got here and saw all of this, the container, I was crying.’

Tertullien - most prevalent in Saint Lucia.

 

The Children’s Commissioner, Anne Longfield, also expressed concerns about B&Bs used as temporary accommodation creating ‘intimidating and potentially unsafe environments’ for children.

A government spokesperson said that £1.2billion had been invested in tackling homelessness, urging families unhappy with their housing to ‘request a review’.

They added: ‘No child should ever be without a roof over their head and we are working to ensure all families have a safe place to stay.’

Im guessing they wont homeless in the countries they came from?

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ONS 'underestimated' EU migration to UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49420730

The level of migration from the EU to the UK has been underestimated by the Office for National Statistics from the mid-2000s to 2016.

The ONS said the error affected the number of migrants from eight of the countries which joined the EU in 2004, including Poland.

. . .

As a result, the status of the immigration figures compiled by the ONS has been downgraded to "experimental".

Just the ONS then?

Now the old '3m EUers, of the years before the EE ascension in 2004ish, has been updated to 'almost 5m' by people who suspect that the EU migrant figures are a lot higher than 3m but dont want to scare the natives.

Give it a bit and itll be 10m -+2m.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, spygirl said:

Its beyond a joke.

https://www.metro.news/thousands-in-shipping-containers-hell-homes/1683072/

Mother-of-two Corelle Tertullien, 26, moved into a container in Hanwell, west London, shortly before she was due to give birth last December.

She told the Bleak Houses report by the Children’s Commissioner for England she was now forced to wash her son of nine months on the floor with cups of water as he’d grown too big for the sink. Another mother, 29, who had arrived from the Calais jungle, said conditions inside the container were worse than she had faced in Eritrea and Sudan.

She added: ‘It’s better than Calais but no-one wishes to live in a container.

‘When I got here and saw all of this, the container, I was crying.’

Tertullien - most prevalent in Saint Lucia.

 

The Children’s Commissioner, Anne Longfield, also expressed concerns about B&Bs used as temporary accommodation creating ‘intimidating and potentially unsafe environments’ for children.

A government spokesperson said that £1.2billion had been invested in tackling homelessness, urging families unhappy with their housing to ‘request a review’.

They added: ‘No child should ever be without a roof over their head and we are working to ensure all families have a safe place to stay.’

Im guessing they wont homeless in the countries they came from?

I just knew that they would not be British.  FFS  when Geldoff (twat) was begging us all to feed the world, did he envision moving them all here to do it?  

FFS

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6 hours ago, spygirl said:

ONS 'underestimated' EU migration to UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49420730

The level of migration from the EU to the UK has been underestimated by the Office for National Statistics from the mid-2000s to 2016.

The ONS said the error affected the number of migrants from eight of the countries which joined the EU in 2004, including Poland.

. . .

As a result, the status of the immigration figures compiled by the ONS has been downgraded to "experimental".

Just the ONS then?

Now the old '3m EUers, of the years before the EE ascension in 2004ish, has been updated to 'almost 5m' by people who suspect that the EU migrant figures are a lot higher than 3m but dont want to scare the natives.

Give it a bit and itll be 10m -+2m.

 

 

 

 

Hardly news...they already admitted this when the 2011 census results were made public..

This press release from back in 2012...

Long-Term International Migration (LTIM) is the most comprehensive estimate of long-term migration. It is based primarily on a subset of the International Passenger Survey (IPS). ONS has published (July 2012) a reconciliation report (361.9 Kb Pdf) explaining that net international migration to England and Wales over the decade 2001 to 2011 was underestimated compared with the census, particularly for migrants from Accession countries.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/internationalmigrantsinenglandandwales/2012-12-11

Annually they undercounted immigration typically by around 50,000 (ie, 25%)

What gets me is back in the 1950s, the home and colonial offices compared our records for people coming in from the west indies to the west indian governments emigration records.

They tallied to within about a dozen people (out of around 30,000, iirc) 

How is it over half a century ago, our grandparents, with rudimentary equipment managed an almost perfect degree of accuracy, while the overpaid bean counters of today, highly qualified though I'm sure they are, have no idea whats going on?

 

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5 minutes ago, PatronizingGit said:

 

Hardly news...they already admitted this when the 2011 census results were made public..

This press release from back in 2012...

Long-Term International Migration (LTIM) is the most comprehensive estimate of long-term migration. It is based primarily on a subset of the International Passenger Survey (IPS). ONS has published (July 2012) a reconciliation report (361.9 Kb Pdf) explaining that net international migration to England and Wales over the decade 2001 to 2011 was underestimated compared with the census, particularly for migrants from Accession countries.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/internationalmigrantsinenglandandwales/2012-12-11

Annually they undercounted immigration typically by around 50,000 (ie, 25%)

What gets me is back in the 1950s, the home and colonial offices compared our records for people coming in from the west indies to the west indian governments emigration records.

They tallied to within about a dozen people (out of around 30,000, iirc) 

How is it over half a century ago, our grandparents, with rudimentary equipment managed an almost perfect degree of accuracy, while the overpaid bean counters of today, highly qualified though I'm sure they are, have no idea whats going on?

 

No,

That was wrong then.

They have admitted to being even more wrong.

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On 21/08/2019 at 12:25, spygirl said:

Its beyond a joke.

https://www.metro.news/thousands-in-shipping-containers-hell-homes/1683072/

Mother-of-two Corelle Tertullien, 26, moved into a container in Hanwell, west London, shortly before she was due to give birth last December.

She told the Bleak Houses report by the Children’s Commissioner for England she was now forced to wash her son of nine months on the floor with cups of water as he’d grown too big for the sink. Another mother, 29, who had arrived from the Calais jungle, said conditions inside the container were worse than she had faced in Eritrea and Sudan.

She added: ‘It’s better than Calais but no-one wishes to live in a container.

‘When I got here and saw all of this, the container, I was crying.’

Tertullien - most prevalent in Saint Lucia.

 

The Children’s Commissioner, Anne Longfield, also expressed concerns about B&Bs used as temporary accommodation creating ‘intimidating and potentially unsafe environments’ for children.

A government spokesperson said that £1.2billion had been invested in tackling homelessness, urging families unhappy with their housing to ‘request a review’.

They added: ‘No child should ever be without a roof over their head and we are working to ensure all families have a safe place to stay.’

Im guessing they wont homeless in the countries they came from?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49426924

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"My son suffers from the heat and can't sleep," he says. "He has a rash on his face - eczema.

"I told the doctor I am living in something like a caravan. He said it could be the heat that is the problem and that air conditioning would help.

"We have the windows open all the time."

Abdel, 35, works as a chef at a local restaurant but has recently struggled to make ends meet.

He says there is "nothing we like about living here" but adds that it is better than the shared hostel they lived in for two months previously.

 

Needs to ask for a payrise or fuck off home.

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