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spygirl

10M -/+ 2M Europeans in UK

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1 minute ago, The Generation Game 🙌 said:

One for @spygirl (even if it is just messing up big scary numbers reviewed by an arts grad)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/09/two-million-eu-citizens-apply-to-remain-in-britain-brexit

Two million people have asked to stay in the UK after Brexit under the government’s EU settlement scheme, latest figures show.

The number of applications received by 30 September is equivalent to one in six EU citizens in the UK and included nationals and relatives from the EU, the European Economic Area (EEA) and Switzerland, Home Office data published on Wednesday said.

 

Sooooo. 12m?

Bloody hell, @spygirl how the hell did you manage to nail that figure?

 

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6 minutes ago, The Generation Game 🙌 said:

One for @spygirl (even if it is just messing up big scary numbers reviewed by an arts grad)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/09/two-million-eu-citizens-apply-to-remain-in-britain-brexit

Two million people have asked to stay in the UK after Brexit under the government’s EU settlement scheme, latest figures show.

The number of applications received by 30 September is equivalent to one in six EU citizens in the UK and included nationals and relatives from the EU, the European Economic Area (EEA) and Switzerland, Home Office data published on Wednesday said.

 

Sooooo. 12m?

10m +/- 2m!

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14 minutes ago, spygirl said:

10m +/- 2m!

Looking at a bit of drill-down on another site:

Of the 1.86m:

Poland - 347k

Romania - 281k

Italy - 201k

Portugal - 163k

Spain - 116k

Bulgaria - 96k

Lithuania - 92k

France -71k

Latvia - 58k 

and so on 

 

Edit: link to the stats if anyone wants to peruse (there was a warning that they might be wrong)

https:www.gov.uk/government/statistics/Europe-settlement-scheme-statistics-September-2019

 

Edited by The Generation Game 🙌

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14 minutes ago, The Generation Game 🙌 said:

One for @spygirl (even if it is just messing up big scary numbers reviewed by an arts grad)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/09/two-million-eu-citizens-apply-to-remain-in-britain-brexit

Two million people have asked to stay in the UK after Brexit under the government’s EU settlement scheme, latest figures show.

The number of applications received by 30 September is equivalent to one in six EU citizens in the UK and included nationals and relatives from the EU, the European Economic Area (EEA) and Switzerland, Home Office data published on Wednesday said.

 

Sooooo. 12m?

Two million people have asked to stay in the UK after Brexit under the government’s EU settlement scheme, latest figures show.

The number of applications received by 30 September is equivalent to one in six EU citizens in the UK and included nationals and relatives from the EU, the European Economic Area (EEA) and Switzerland, Home Office data published on Wednesday said.

More than half a million applications (520,600) were received in September alone.

(Using the 3m number).

So .... ~20% of EUers in UK have suddenly applied in September?

 

IN asnwer to my guessitimate.

~3m EUers were in the UK befure EEE FOM in 2004ish.

I know what 3M EUers feels like.

Of that 3m, about ~1m were French. The other 2m were odds and sods, no particular nation standing out bar the northern europeans in banking in London.

Then the ere were the scattering of odds n sods - spouses, students, living in London types.

Again, for most of Europe bar Germany Nland + Nordics, moving to the UK has been the only game in town to get some work experience and learn/improve the worlds most important language.

Now the UK is absolutely flooded with EUers.

Just my normal out n abouting its about ~5 times the 3m.

For instance., I was sat in spoons at the weekend. Rural large town. There were 4 separate EE family groups - kids, parents, grandparents sat in the family area. About ~25 people.

Thats not ~3m EUers.

 

The 12m -+2m is a guesstimate.

 

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7 minutes ago, The Generation Game 🙌 said:

Looking at a bit of drill-down on another site:

Of the 1.86m:

Poland - 347k

Romania - 281k

Italy - 201k

 

Edit: link to the stats if anyone wants to peruse (there was a warning that they might be wrong)

https:www.gov.uk/government/statistics/Europe-settlement-scheme-statistics-September-2019

 

Counting nationalises i.e. kids, spouse rather than NI numbers,

Id guess there are about 1m Italians in the UK.

Deffo 1m Portguese.

Easily 1m Spanish.

About 2m-4m Polish.

Getting on for 3m Balkans.

Id guess that somewhere between 30-50% of EE 19-50 are living or have lived in the UK in the last 5 years.

 

 

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https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/locksmith-letting-agent-stumble-across-17052919

Keith Allen, defending married dad-of-two Kurmekaj, said: "The defendant came to this country some months ago.

"The intention when coming to this country was to earn money to be able to provide money for his family back in Albania.

"He had paid for his travel from Albania effectively on credit. He'd worked varying jobs, predominantly in the south, industrial construction jobs.

"He was offered work in this area but it wasn't until he arrived that it was clear to him what that work entailed.

"He's been taken into the unit. The doors were closed behind him and he was told he would be assisting in growing cannabis.

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Oyster card update

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If you didn't request any changes, please contact TfL Customer Services on 0343 222 1234 (8am to 8pm daily).

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50003563

The UK will deport EU citizens after Brexit if they don't apply for the right to remain in time, Home Office minister Brandon Lewis says.

....

The Home Office says it does not have a figure for the number of EU citizens currently living in the UK, but estimates by the Migration Observatory put it at 3.3 million, excluding Irish citizens who have the right to settled status already.

yeah right.

 

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1 minute ago, spygirl said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50003563

The UK will deport EU citizens after Brexit if they don't apply for the right to remain in time, Home Office minister Brandon Lewis says.

....

The Home Office says it does not have a figure for the number of EU citizens currently living in the UK, but estimates by the Migration Observatory put it at 3.3 million, excluding Irish citizens who have the right to settled status already.

yeah right.

 

Just stop the free money and stuff. 

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1 minute ago, spygirl said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50003563

The UK will deport EU citizens after Brexit if they don't apply for the right to remain in time, Home Office minister Brandon Lewis says.

....

The Home Office says it does not have a figure for the number of EU citizens currently living in the UK, but estimates by the Migration Observatory put it at 3.3 million, excluding Irish citizens who have the right to settled status already.

yeah right.

 

We should just start charging airlines for anyone they fly in (And ferrys etc) who don't have the right paperwork including proper health care insurance.

 

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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/community-connect-britsinpoland
 

The meetings will provide information about Brexit: a representative of the Polish Office for Foreigners will update participants on the rights of UK nationals living and working in Poland, and there will be an opportunity to ask questions at the end.

The meetings are free and open to all interested UK nationals, but registration is obligatory - ID will be requested on the door.

Photographs will be taken during the events. If you do not wish to be photographed, please approach our photographer.

Upcoming events

Lodz, 18 October 2019 - Register here

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So how many Brits in Poland?

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20 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/community-connect-britsinpoland
 

The meetings will provide information about Brexit: a representative of the Polish Office for Foreigners will update participants on the rights of UK nationals living and working in Poland, and there will be an opportunity to ask questions at the end.

The meetings are free and open to all interested UK nationals, but registration is obligatory - ID will be requested on the door.

Photographs will be taken during the events. If you do not wish to be photographed, please approach our photographer.

Upcoming events

Lodz, 18 October 2019 - Register here

Warsaw, 21 October 2019 - Register here

So how many Brits in Poland?

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Put it this way,

More EUers turn up in the UK in 2018 than UKers have ever moved to mainland Europe.

 

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The court also heard how one woman managed to escape and ran to a nearby shop where she raised the alarm.

The woman spoke no English and the shopkeeper could not understand her, but a beat police officer managed to translate with the help of two young girls who lived nearby.

What are the chances of that! Finding 2 girls who speak slovak nearby to help out ....

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7562103/Romanian-driver-killed-woman-driving-wrong-road.html

Grancea, who has amassed 13 previous convictions around Europe since leaving Romania, was jailed for six years.

The court heard Grancea was uninsured when the accident happened just after 6.30pm on August 20, on the A69 bypass near Haydon Bridge.

Grancea overtook a tractor on the west-bound carriageway, but then stayed in the lane to overtake another car in front of him.

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And I guess todays stabee is 'Portuguese'' (Angolan)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7561595/Two-teenagers-stabbed-death-London-boy-15-Stratford-east-man-18-Camberwell-south.html

The victim, Baptista Adijei, was a 15-year-old student at St Bonaventure's School in Forest Gate, east London. He was a keen Manchester United fan and had recently trialled for League One team Ipswich Town.

His aunt Aretha Adjei told the newspaper: 'He was a nice boy, the fact that he died in his school uniform is horrific. 

'His mother is not coping well. She only has two children. You can't imagine her pain. She keeps saying how she should have gone and picked him up.

Fuck! Shes missing on 1000s of bennies!

 

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7 minutes ago, spygirl said:

And I guess todays stabee is 'Portuguese'' (Angolan)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7561595/Two-teenagers-stabbed-death-London-boy-15-Stratford-east-man-18-Camberwell-south.html

The victim, Baptista Adijei, was a 15-year-old student at St Bonaventure's School in Forest Gate, east London. He was a keen Manchester United fan and had recently trialled for League One team Ipswich Town.

His aunt Aretha Adjei told the newspaper: 'He was a nice boy, the fact that he died in his school uniform is horrific. 

'His mother is not coping well. She only has two children. You can't imagine her pain. She keeps saying how she should have gone and picked him up.

Fuck! Shes missing on 1000s of bennies!

 

That story is too perfect, literally the 'promising footballer' meme.

He was a gud boi, he dindu nothin

 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49939124

"Baba! Baba!" calls out the driving instructor. Thirteen-year-old Jiawei sits at the back of the car while her dad takes his driving lesson. Father and daughter exchange confused glances, then burst out laughing. The instructor, who has heard this Chinese word during one of Jiawei's father's previous lessons, looks puzzled.

"Doesn't 'baba' mean 'move forward' in Chinese?" he asks.

"No," says Jiawei. "It means 'father'!"

....

Seventeen-year-old Oliwia, who has translated from Polish to English for her mother since 2008, is familiar with that feeling. She's used to hearing xenophobic comments.

....

 

Translating at the doctor's can be especially tricky.

Esmeralda, who is 16 and from Peru, was suddenly confronted with the word "cyst" after her mother's minor surgery.

"I had no idea," she says.

....

 

Like Esmeralda, 17-year-old Lesly, from Ecuador, has sometimes translated for her mother in hospital. At other times, though, people have tried to stop her.

"They say I am under 18, [but] she needs a translator and there is no-one else there. I continue talking and tell them what my mom tells me," she says.

....

 

At a school in London, Marian, who is 13 and from Bolivia, is translating from English to Spanish for her mum, Mary Luz, at her own parents' evening.

Marian's computer science teacher pays a visit to her table.

.....

 

At her school in east London, 17-year-old Fatima has a band of friends who, like her, moved to the UK from Italy in their early teens. All are from South Asian families, so they speak Bengali, Sinhalese or Urdu at home, Italian with friends and now English, sometimes switching between all three languages.

Often the children were not pleased to be dragged from Italy to the UK; learning a new language and translating for their parents was a burden.

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