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Just now, Sgt Hartman said:

In my experience it's a synonym for 'gobshite'. 

It's a title that people obtain when their obsession about a various topic crosses the line from passionate to overbearing and they then title themselves 'activist' as that sounds a lot better than 'pain in the fucking arse'.

IMHO.

I think you have put it succinctly. My question was prompted by an article on "Greenpeace" who seem to run a navy larger than many European countries have, on pixie dust.

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Just now, MrPin said:

I think you have put it succinctly. My question was prompted by an article on "Greenpeace" who seem to run a navy larger than many European countries have, on pixie dust.

Greenpeace is a prime example. They used to have quite a lot of respect back in the day and I think most folk thought they were a force for good. That was until the 'activists' got involved who started pulling idiotic stunts like climbing oil rigs and buggering up the Nazca lines and as a result, Greenpeace have acquired a bit of a 'fringe loon' label.

Luckily for Greenpeace, they've probably obtained a tidy sum through donations from people who started coughing up when they were trendy and haven't cottoned on to the fact that it's now overtly influenced by nutjobs so they haven't pulled the funding yet.

That said, PETA are card-carrying mentalists but they seem to be pretty well funded.

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9 minutes ago, MrPin said:

I think you have put it succinctly. My question was prompted by an article on "Greenpeace" who seem to run a navy larger than many European countries have, on pixie dust.

Totally infiltrated, and a front for security services operations, most likely set up by them in the first place, hence the Rainbow Warrior incident. There'll be plenty of believers though they suck in.

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Just now, SNACR said:

Totally infiltrated and a front for security services operations hence the Rainbow Warrior incident. There'll be plenty of believers though.

You are spot on as usual. Meet me at Victoria Station washrooms wearing a red rose. I'm not telling when, as I want you to have an "interesting " time.

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3 minutes ago, MrPin said:

You are spot on as usual. Meet me at Victoria Station washrooms wearing a red rose. I'm not telling when, as I want you to have an "interesting " time.

Is that an MI5 'Safe Cottage'?

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Just now, Happy Renting said:

Is that an MI5 'Safe Cottage'?

It seems to be a long running joke about where brown envelopes change hands. It is near Westminster.

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From the urban dictionary:

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What unemployed adults from middle class families call themselves to feel better about being utter failures. Activists will often have massive student debt, worthless degrees, and live at home with their parents.

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2 minutes ago, MrPin said:

Well, that's my question answered. Thanks Internet!o.O

Sorry..

We've let you down.

The correct answer is,  of course,  to go and assault someone with a milkshake.

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IMO it is a bit like the inverse of porn and art -- you don't know it when you see it, but plenty of people in the media will be happy to arbitrarily tell you when it applies.

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'Activist' seems to be almost exclusively SJW/leftist in nature. I can't recall ever having heard of a right wing activist, which makes me think it's a cover for 'left wing agitator who can't function in any of the normal routes used to instigate change'.

It's a bit like 'community organiser'. I believe the blessed Saint Barack of Obama was one of those.

 

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On 20/05/2019 at 16:55, Sgt Hartman said:

In my experience it's a synonym for 'gobshite'. 

It's a title that people obtain when their obsession about a various topic crosses the line from passionate to overbearing and they then title themselves 'activist' as that sounds a lot better than 'pain in the fucking arse'.

IMHO.

I would label myself has more of an activist than many who claim the mantel in fact many of us are activists compared to wider society the system at the end of the day is our enermy our frugality is just one example of depriving the beast no tv licence is another

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Activist is just a loudmouthed left-winger.  "Racist bigot" is the right-wing equivalent.

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Let's have a DOSBODS euphemism thread. My favourite right now is "county lines" drug dealers, which is what the MSM / Police are calling, essentially, incomers from urban shit-holes selling drugs to quaint rural villages.

Proof: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&biw=1920&bih=966&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=ayXkXO_sG7uI1fAPgvGk6AQ&q=county+lines+drug+dealers&oq=county+lines+drug+dealers&gs_l=img.3..0i24.8499.9750..9823...0.0..0.83.651.12......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0j0i8i30.VLFZcQ8k_E4

 

Google Images is RACIST! :Old:

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An activist used to be someone who would typically get involved in some form of direct protest or action, representing a larger group who have different and clear ideas about the way in which things should be changed or done.

Now, it's someone with a big mouth that doesn't have much in the way of a clear idea of any other way forward. Or someone who knows "their" way forward but also knows it won't gain any traction and has no popular support, importantly because their cause is at odds with others' liberty and rights, and thinks that "he or she who shouts the loudest" will win.

And so does precisely that - on social media - and if bold enough, maybe in-person, and tries to personally undermine people in order to get rid of them. That's what happens when you lose an argument.

In a nutshell activism used to be related to causes and changing hearts and minds, however these days it's more about "nasty people", and exerting pressure on such people seen as "barriers".

Which is a shame because it makes activism, a valid form of political participation, something that most people associate with nutcases whose causes may be dismissed.

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Activism probably works or works best when it's mindless "strong" action and activity in favour of a popular cause that's already got strong/overwhelming public opinion building and behind it.  Public opinion that has been persuaded by facts and evidence.  Typical examples might be in the US against the Vietnam war, women's votes and also some years and decades ago the issues of feminism and the racism etc.

It doesn't work or at least not so well when it fails to have overwhelming strong public opinion behind it.  When the public hasn't been persuaded of the activists' cause.  Typically and most recently that would be activism against real Brexit, against Farage and against TR.  In those cases activism flounders because violence, terrorism and intimidation by itself doesn't persuade or convince.  Indeed at its extremes it is counter productive, for instance the milk shake incidents. 

Lots of the activists in 2019 are just out of date and redundant and their current causes just aren't persuasive any more - that is if they ever really were.

Edited by twocents

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