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Frank Hovis

Cat cafe / entrepeneurship / useless degrees

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A young entrepreneur is hoping to open Cornwall’s first cat café – where people can distress with a hot drink in the company of several felines.

Great, can't wait.  I accept however that my desire to visit a cat cafe does give me negative points when it comes to real manship.

However she's only 22, what experience can she bring to this venture?  Waitressing and helping to run a cafe perhaps?
 

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She said: “I’ve always loved cats from a very young age and having just completed my degree in drawing at Falmouth University this feels like a perfect way to combine my two passions.

“I will be using my design skills to create a very visually appealing setting with opportunities for people to take a selfie, cuddle a cat and enjoy some tasty cake.”

 

Likes cats - good, a necessary prerequisite - and can draw.

 

Um, ok.  Moving on how will this venture be financed?  Bank loan supplemented by some core capital accumulated from previous work perhaps?

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Jessica is now Crowdfunding in the hope of raising enough funds to kick-start the venture.

Oh I see.  The modern day begging letter that is Crowdfunding.

 

Nice cat anyway.  And if it does ever open I will pay a visit or two.

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https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/ambitious-plans-open-cornwalls-first-2994364

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29 minutes ago, Craig said:

A degree in drawing? What next, colouring? Counting?!

I have a vague memory that Falmouth is one of the top illustration  places. I might be wrong.

I wish I could draw. Id not waste my talent with a bunch of flea ridden moggies.

She needs to take her degree and use it FFS. This is the thing I see all the time, esp with wimmin - xx gets a degree in <insert, sometimes a v usefull/lucrative degree> then refuses to make any effort of leave her home region to go and get a suitable job. Gets jobs waitressing.

Blocke down the road from my mum has a oxbridge educated daughter. 27 now. Works parttime behind the bar at a pub.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, spygirl said:

I have a vague memory that Falmouth is one of the top illustration  places. I might be wrong.

I wish I could draw. Id not waste my talent with a bunch of flea ridden moggies.

She needs to take her degree and use it FFS. This is the thing I see all the time, esp with wimmin - xx gets a degree in <insert, sometimes a v usefull/lucrative degree> then refuses to make any effort of leave her home region to go and get a suitable job. Gets jobs waitressing.

Blocke down the road from my mum has a oxbridge educated daughter. 27 now. Works parttime behind the bar at a pub.

 

It is.  Art, drawing, photography and film.  There was a longstanding and well regarded Falmouth School of Art which wa subsumed and expanded by Exeter Uni and remains good in those areas.

And they are all fun ways to wile away three years as a bit of light relief from the genuine academic hardwork of A Levels.

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1 minute ago, Frank Hovis said:

It is.  Art, drawing, photography and film.  There was a longstanding and well regarded Falmouth School of Art which wa subsumed and expanded by Exeter Uni and remains good in those areas.

And they are all fun ways to wile away three years as a bit of light relief from the genuine academic hardwork of A Levels.

I wanted to do comics when I was kid - 2000ad, marvel that sort of thing.

I just have no aptitude for it, which is a shame. I just had no ability to draw - or at least sit down and practise drawing time n time again.

My kids do, which is wierd.

And, before you say, its not a  not being able to sit down and concentrate thing - I used to sit for hours doing maths, or learning algorithm and low level  hardware and CPU documentation, to the point that I was targetted by a very big american compnay i in th late 80s to 'do stuff' over the summer holiday, on very very good pay, nearly 2k/month plus a 400/m retainer during my degrees.

 

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I think people that have these ideas have no idea of the value of money, no idea how much margin they need to make to cover costs and make a living, and no idea that their only customers will be other people that have no idea of the value of money.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, spygirl said:

I wanted to do comics when I was kid - 2000ad, marvel that sort of thing.

I just have no aptitude for it, which is a shame. I just had no ability to draw - or at least sit down and practise drawing time n time again.

My kids do, which is wierd.

And, before you say, its not a  not being able to sit down and concentrate thing - I used to sit for hours doing maths, or learning algorithm and low level  hardware and CPU documentation, to the point that I was targetted by a very big american compnay i in th late 80s to 'do stuff' over the summer holiday, on very very good pay, nearly 2k/month plus a 400/m retainer during my degrees.

 

I wasn't going to say that as I am just the same.  My drawing is very poor.

My theory would be about how your brain models the world.  Somebody who is good at art is very much seeing the world without a big modelled interpretative overlay.  THey will see the lovely sweep of the coast and fix that image wheeas I will be seeing through that surface image to a drowned river valley, eroding rock structures and evidence of recent cliff falls.  

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Cat cafes are cruel. Cat's aren't meant to be confined in close proximity to dozens of other cats. Forced into contact with humans and constantly petted. They are also kept by the cafe instead of re-homed, if they re-homed all their cats they wouldn't have any left would they. Also in reality how well are these places looking after the cats? The vet bills alone would bankrupt them in short order if they were actually giving them proper care. These places need shutting down.

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2 minutes ago, gibbon said:

Cat cafes are cruel. Cat's aren't meant to be confined in close proximity to dozens of other cats. Forced into contact with humans and constantly petted. They are also kept by the cafe instead of re-homed, if they re-homed all their cats they wouldn't have any left would they. Also in reality how well are these places looking after the cats? The vet bills alone would bankrupt them in short order if they were actually giving them proper care. These places need shutting down.

Whilst it's entirely hypothetical so is nothing more than free publicity for her crowdfunder she does know and care about cats.
 

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The café would be home to between three to six cats at a time. Jessica said the welfare of the cats would be her top priority.

“They would have their own space completely separate from the public that they would have access to at all times, should they decide that they don't feel like socialising," she said.


 

 

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3 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Whilst it's entirely hypothetical so is nothing more than free publicity for her crowdfunder she does know and care about cats.
 

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The café would be home to between three to six cats at a time. Jessica said the welfare of the cats would be her top priority.

“They would have their own space completely separate from the public that they would have access to at all times, should they decide that they don't feel like socialising," she said.

 

She's talking bollocks, a cat cafe with no cats with them hiding in the back won't be open long. The cats will be forced/cajoled into going out and playing with the humans. I know a few vets and staff and they all believe these places are cruel.

Anyway just another fad for dickhead millennials, in 10 years they'll be gone just like all the frozen yogurt places.

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6 minutes ago, King of Fools said:

Bless her, she seems nice. Not like the usual obese, blue haired harpies you'd associate with this kind of thing. I wish her well.

If it opens then I will certainly go a few times; she does however seem to lack the necessary experience.

This woman succeeded in opening several food stores in Cornwall starting in 2015 aged twenty and they're still going so it can certainly be done. 

The cat cafe woman doesn't however strike me as business-focused which is a requirement. 

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https://metro.co.uk/2015/10/26/woman-opens-25p-shop-to-rival-supermarket-giants-and-shes-already-won-us-over-5463812/

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Crowdfunding! presumably that means gifting rather than becoming a shareholder for a business start up? In any case even if a share of the business was on offer, she looks like a high maintenance type...profits spunked on her drawings maintaining her wardrobe and jetting off to foreign parts on " eco holidays" to save the planet in all probability.

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Am I half asleep or, is it not supposed to be "people can de-stress with a hot drink" not, "people can distress with a hot drink"?

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1 hour ago, gibbon said:

Cat cafes are cruel. Cat's aren't meant to be confined in close proximity to dozens of other cats. Forced into contact with humans and constantly petted. They are also kept by the cafe instead of re-homed, if they re-homed all their cats they wouldn't have any left would they. Also in reality how well are these places looking after the cats? The vet bills alone would bankrupt them in short order if they were actually giving them proper care. These places need shutting down.

It depends on the cats.

My daughter likes cat cafes - she googles them,. we have to visit them.

Most ofthe cats are perfectly happy in theirs.

Cats, big n small,. just want to do as little as possible.

 

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I went into a coffee shop, in Portrush, and didn’t realise until I was overcommitted that it was a dog coffee shop. I like dogs and have one but don’t really want a load of dogs pestering me when I’m trying to sit down and relax with coffee and piece of cake. Having said that it was probably one of the better coffees and cakes I’ve had, in what’s a very hit and miss world of restaurants and cafes.

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A cafe near me in Toronto does cat re-homing events in conjunction with a local cat-shelter. The shelter brings a few cats in baskets for the day and interested parties but something in the cafe and spend a bit of time interacting with the moggies. They usually seem to home a bunch of the cats and it's no crueler than cat-shelters I've been to where the animals live in communal areas with each other.

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11 minutes ago, Horrified Onlooker said:

How many coffee shops open, and close, each Summer in Cornwall? I suspect that it’s a ruthless & competitive business. But it’s not her money that she will spunk away....

She needs a kid then she can do the 16 hour bennie shuffle, or alternatively (or both) use it as a front form money laundering. The number of cafes with no one in round by me in London is staggering. They have to be getting their money from somewhere 

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A coffee shop with a gimmick is the standard business idea for someone who knows nothing about business.

They envision owning and running the business as being like hanging out in a coffee shop all day every day.

In reality, it is very, very difficult to make a coffee shop profitable as an independent. This is well documented. I imagine a large percentage of those who do manage to keep one trundling along are getting their money from elsewhere, i.e. rich family members/other half or a tax credit topup. Or as @One percent says, possible money laundering - I know a few cafe's in the most 'enriched' business area of Belfast that I pass a couple times a day that are constantly empty yet trading for years.

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