The Up and Going Under Sports thread: starter for 10

[Stuey]

23 hours ago, katar said:

The basis of this is that paying to watch sports is discretionary spending.  When times get hard people focus on necessities.  We've been living in a prosperous time for a very long time, now the squeeze is on.  Other expensive leisure activities are likely to suffer  e.g gyms, pubs, clubs etc.  Sports and physical activities will continue to exist, but there will be a growth of amateurism, people doing it because they enjoy it.   

 

The gym is cheap. ~£3 per visit for me and I don't even use the pool. Less than a pint. 

 

1 minute ago, spunko said:

Surely a chicken or egg situation. If more people went to their local, they'd enjoy life more.

Massive multi-room but knocked-through "estate pubs" won't be able to tolerate their heating bills. Micropubs will be fine

[katar]

I've read, that a lot of  commercial gyms count on the fact that people get memberships and then barely use the facilities.   It must eventually dawn on this sort of member, that they're wasting their money, and stop their affiliation.  Survival of gyms will depend on what percentage of users, use the equipment, have sufficient money and a willingness to part with it.  

Prior to the big chains there's always been gyms, perhaps attached to things like rugby and boxing clubs.  They often had dedicated users.   "Micro-gyms" (compared to the big places we have now), will continue like your micro-pubs.  Again, could be that instead of using ready-made equipment,  people will improvise.  Lifting a sandbag, for example is resistance training just the same as a barbell and disks.  Instead of people loping along on a treadmill they'll actually go for a run  and put up with getting wet.

People will adapt no matter what is chucked at them.

[HousePriceMania]

25 minutes ago, Stuey said:

The gym is cheap. ~£3 per visit for me and I don't even use the pool. Less than a pint. 

 

 

Beer is expensive. 

[Sugarlips]

It’s okay I’m sure the clubs will make up for any losses by all the blokes watching the women’s games instead 🙄

[Stuey]

11 minutes ago, HousePriceMania said:

Beer is expensive. 

Good beer is, but LOUT is cheap as beige. 

[sancho panza]

23 minutes ago, katar said:

I've read, that a lot of  commercial gyms count on the fact that people get memberships and then barely use the facilities.   It must eventually dawn on this sort of member, that they're wasting their money, and stop their affiliation.  Survival of gyms will depend on what percentage of users, use the equipment, have sufficient money and a willingness to part with it.  

Prior to the big chains there's always been gyms, perhaps attached to things like rugby and boxing clubs.  They often had dedicated users.   "Micro-gyms" (compared to the big places we have now), will continue like your micro-pubs.  Again, could be that instead of using ready-made equipment,  people will improvise.  Lifting a sandbag, for example is resistance training just the same as a barbell and disks.  Instead of people loping along on a treadmill they'll actually go for a run  and put up with getting wet.

People will adapt no matter what is chucked at them.

I think thats a real issue.People who use a gym twice a week are paying £5 plus fuel to get there.

Thing is with pure gym and those types of places,have totally shattered the virgin/lloyds model,effectively giving people an Aldi downgrade option with decent kit.

Also,this downturn in disposable has barely begun,things will get intese for the middle classes in the new tax year.

[HousePriceMania]

Just had a read of wasps history

 

Its downfall was PROPERTY

 

That owned their ground, sold to build houses 

Current owners bought the ricoh arena, now owe £35m in bond payments. 

US Bank involved 

 

The whole of the UK has been ruined by cheap debt and dodgy property deals 

[sancho panza]

On 25/10/2022 at 22:24, HousePriceMania said:

Just had a read of wasps history

 

Its downfall was PROPERTY

 

That owned their ground, sold to build houses 

Current owners bought the ricoh arena, now owe £35m in bond payments. 

US Bank involved 

 

The whole of the UK has been ruined by cheap debt and dodgy property deals 

from last year,hadn't realsied the trouble rugby was in

SUrreal,they appear to have been playing in a ground owned by the local council,sponsored by coventry buidlign scoiety....I mena what could go wrong?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63244504

[sancho panza]

Lodnon Irish facing the firing sqaud.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/exclusive-premiership-rugby-warned-against-increasing-the-salary-cap/ar-AA1bgjCc

After a season in which both Worcester and Wasps have fallen out of existence, Irish must prove their proposed US takeover has been completed or that their current owners can fund the club for next season by May 30. If they can't, they will be suspended from the Premiership.

There are serious concerns in the English game Irish will not be able to meet the deadline imposed by the RFU and will become the third team to exit the top tier due to monetary problems.

At the same time, there remains a huge split among the current 11 Premiership clubs over plans to increase the salary cap from £5million-a-team to £6.4m for the start of the 2024-25 season. Many feel the cap - how much each side can spend on their playing squad - should remain at £5m as it is now with it clear many clubs are struggling to stay afloat.

But others - understood to include Bath and Bristol who are backed by wealthy owners - disagree.

 

 

Edited May 17, 2023 by sancho panza

[HousePriceMania]

9 minutes ago, sancho panza said:

Lodnon Irish facing the firing sqaud.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/exclusive-premiership-rugby-warned-against-increasing-the-salary-cap/ar-AA1bgjCc

After a season in which both Worcester and Wasps have fallen out of existence, Irish must prove their proposed US takeover has been completed or that their current owners can fund the club for next season by May 30. If they can't, they will be suspended from the Premiership.

There are serious concerns in the English game Irish will not be able to meet the deadline imposed by the RFU and will become the third team to exit the top tier due to monetary problems.

At the same time, there remains a huge split among the current 11 Premiership clubs over plans to increase the salary cap from £5million-a-team to £6.4m for the start of the 2024-25 season. Many feel the cap - how much each side can spend on their playing squad - should remain at £5m as it is now with it clear many clubs are struggling to stay afloat.

But others - understood to include Bath and Bristol who are backed by wealthy owners - disagree.

 

 

Yeah, Rugby is in big trouble, same old problem...spending too much money.