Wanna buy a church?

[sarahbell]

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/130184813#/?channel=RES_BUY

The vendors reserve the right to remove any of the stained glass windows, pews, the pulpit, the stone font and other furnishings prior to completion (Subject to listed building consent where appropriate). The vendors also reserve the right to remove the wall mounted memorials prior to completion, together with the other contents in the church. 

[Axeman123]

presumably an architectural salvage business has bought the place for those items, and wants its money back for the rest.

The font would have been a great ice bucket to stick bottles of beer in when having parties!

[Phil]

Surprised the muzzers aren’t going for it. 

[Boon]

Should be interesting to see if it goes.

Seen many church conversions into flats, looks like quite a lot can be fitted into there. And for some reason they also are priced at a premium to a normal shitbox even though internally it will be the same but with a fancy window.

But development finance was cheap then, it isn't now. I think the raised interest rate must make a lot of projects unfeasible.

[Axeman123]

4 minutes ago, Phil said:

Surprised the muzzers aren’t going for it. 

They will be glad to rid of the pews, to make room for rape pens!

Probably a bit upset about the memorials not being there to desecrate though.

[Phil]

5 minutes ago, Axeman123 said:

They will be glad to rid of the pews, to make room for rape pens!

Probably a bit upset about the memorials not being there to desecrate though.

No need. They have Cyril Smith as an idol.  

[One percent]

18 minutes ago, Axeman123 said:

presumably an architectural salvage business has bought the place for those items, and wants its money back for the rest.

The font would have been a great ice bucket to stick bottles of beer in when having parties!

A local church has recently been sold.  A small local group is currently arranging for things of historic interest to be removed. Apparently, anything consecrated, such as the font is not allowed to be sold. It’s a bit vague on how it can be disposed of. 

[belfastchild]

That will be a bastard to heat!

[Bear Hug]

52 minutes ago, Boon said:

internally it will be the same but with a fancy window.

If they are lucky. I assume some units will end up with minimal windows. 

[sarahbell]

2 hours ago, One percent said:

A local church has recently been sold.  A small local group is currently arranging for things of historic interest to be removed. Apparently, anything consecrated, such as the font is not allowed to be sold. It’s a bit vague on how it can be disposed of. 

If it's included on the listing I don't see how they can remove things without changing the listed status 

[One percent]

Just now, sarahbell said:

If it's included on the listing I don't see how they can remove things without changing the listed status 

Dunno how it works but a mate is currently trying to get a local stonemason to remove the war memorial plaques before they are destroyed by the new owner. Gawd only knows where they are going to go. 

[Frank Hovis]

This one on a main road in Truro has been up for sale, on and off, for £100k over the last few years.

 

 

It sounds cheap until you read the estimated repair cost: £4m.

And they won't just let you buy it to knock it down.  The plot doesn;t extend much beyond the church.

 

It would make an incredible house if money was no object but it is right by a busy road.

 

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/st-pauls-church-truro-up-2569241

[Ash4781b]

It would be a laugh going around it with an estate agent. See what bollox they come up with 

[wherebee]

10 hours ago, Ash4781b said:

It would be a laugh going around it with an estate agent. See what bollox they come up with 

go prepared with foaming mouth trick tablets ready, and when you cross the threshold....

[sarahbell]

18 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

It sounds cheap until you read the estimated repair cost: £4m.

And they won't just let you buy it to knock it down.  The plot doesn;t extend much beyond the church.

 

It would make an incredible house if money was no object but it is right by a busy road.

 

Well I don't get the listed building aspects being ripped out of this one - I can imagine it'd cost an absolute gazillion to take a stained glass window out. And then what do you do with it?

[One percent]

3 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

 

Well I don't get the listed building aspects being ripped out of this one - I can imagine it'd cost an absolute gazillion to take a stained glass window out. And then what do you do with it?

What gets me is the destruction of our heritage. Once it’s gone, it’s gone for ever. 

[spunko]

A lot of people think they know about listed building regulations and how onerous they supposedly are (they generally aren't). But ecclesiastical buildings have their own specialist planning laws and it takes many many years to learn all about ecclesiastic planning regulations. You cannot just remove a stained glass window that is probably about 400 years old by filling in a listed building consent form on the council's website, you will need to get a specialist in to justify it and the correct way to remove it etc (and rightly so).

The owners sound like a fucking nightmare, I would run a mile.

If they are that arsed about keeping certain items for themselves, they should have gone through the rigamarole of getting the relevant consents to do so before listing it on the market.

[tlc]

On 28/12/2022 at 13:37, Phil said:

Surprised the muzzers aren’t going for it. 

Theres a mosque next door. 

[Phil]

1 minute ago, tlc said:

Theres a mosque next door. 

Easy knock through for the annex extension then. Perhaps convert it to housing for all the muslims coming here from war torn Benidorm and such places. Result.

[Green Devil]

On 28/12/2022 at 13:07, sarahbell said:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/130184813#/?channel=RES_BUY

The vendors reserve the right to remove any of the stained glass windows, pews, the pulpit, the stone font and other furnishings prior to completion (Subject to listed building consent where appropriate). The vendors also reserve the right to remove the wall mounted memorials prior to completion, together with the other contents in the church. 

That means they WILL remove it if they can get any extra cash for it. Nice church though. Though the layout with the arches might be tricky to make a modern design. Youd be looking very open plan at a guess. Def not worth 300K though considering the location!

[Frank Hovis]

Whilst it may appear whacky and they are generally beautiful buildings they aren't designed to be homes so don't work well as such.  Here's a conversion of a fairly modern church.

As the basic frame is one tall hall the bedroom is on a freestanding tower in the middle of the room.

£550k?  No thank you.

 

https://www.hampshirelive.news/news/property/isle-wight-church-rightmove-property-5881122

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/107167256#/media?channel=RES_BUY&id=media5

[Wight Flight]

1 hour ago, Frank Hovis said:

Whilst it may appear whacky and they are generally beautiful buildings they aren't designed to be homes so don't work well as such.  Here's a conversion of a fairly modern church.

As the basic frame is one tall hall the bedroom is on a freestanding tower in the middle of the room.

£550k?  No thank you.

 

https://www.hampshirelive.news/news/property/isle-wight-church-rightmove-property-5881122

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/107167256#/media?channel=RES_BUY&id=media5

Location is a bit remote. Bus only runs in the summer months.

You could have half a church for less than half the price.

This would actually make a good second home as the location is very good indeed. (Did I say that?)

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/132158135#/?channel=RES_BUY

 

[Bear Hug]

19 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

Location is a bit remote. Bus only runs in the summer months.

You could have half a church for less than half the price.

This would actually make a good second home as the location is very good indeed. (Did I say that?)

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/132158135#/?channel=RES_BUY

 

Half? It's 1/7th.

[Bear Hug]

1 hour ago, Frank Hovis said:

Whilst it may appear whacky and they are generally beautiful buildings they aren't designed to be homes so don't work well as such.  Here's a conversion of a fairly modern church.

As the basic frame is one tall hall the bedroom is on a freestanding tower in the middle of the room.

£550k?  No thank you.

 

https://www.hampshirelive.news/news/property/isle-wight-church-rightmove-property-5881122

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/107167256#/media?channel=RES_BUY&id=media5

Crazy bedroom setup. I don't have any better ideas but I still don't like it. 

Heating will be an issue. 

[Frank Hovis]

4 minutes ago, Bear Hug said:

Crazy bedroom setup. I don't have any better ideas but I still don't like it. 

Heating will be an issue. 

 

It needs a full floor across at ceiling height and then dormer conversions in the current roofspace.

However because the walls are made of tin there will be no way to support that floor with either loads of internal walls and pillars or knocking the whole thing down and rebuilding it.

I wonder how good tin is as an insulating material?

 

Unique heritage tin tabernacle church conversion